Where is everyone?

Vagante · November 29th, 2018, 5:40 PM

I can't believe there are no more posts on this site then I see. When I joined it was cranking. Now it seems like a mortuary. Where is everyone? Where did they go? They certainly aren't selling their fats because I don't see many on the market. When I look at the last post dates it makes me so sad.

Stingercut · November 30th, 2018, 11:54 AM

Negative Politics creates apathy.

AB · December 4th, 2018, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Stingercut

Negative Politics creates apathy.

Humm ... well said.

Still here just the seemingly endless rain here in the Mid-Atlantic (past 4 months) has put a damper on things also.

Happy Holidays!

mainlyfats · December 5th, 2018, 9:13 PM

I know it's not really helpful - and a bit whiny and negative - but I wonder a bit at how the roll-out of the New Fat Chance has influenced those that kept the fire burning all these years. How the new venture not only wasn't born from this site, but that we've yet to be meaningfully engaged by the parent company when so many of us have been consummate brand ambassadors. That anyone can buy a new Fat Chance now, that it's a normal bike brand selling modern bikes, has perhaps taken some of the shine off this community of fetishists. It has made me at least a bit sad and I find myself adopting a "get off my lawn" stance as I continue to admire old tech and workmanship.

I love the community aspect, though. I hope to keep on being a resource for folks who stumble upon an old mountain bike with bullet stays and end up here. If New Fat Chance fails and someone comes along to write a Harvard Business Review article on nostalgia marketing and the pitfalls of brand revival - well I guess I'll probably be around for that too.

Stingercut · December 7th, 2018, 7:04 PM

@ Mainlyfats, you make some good points. The artisan bike market is very crowded these days. Chris and his associates should maybe engage more with us. You can only get wistfully nostalgic for so long about such things I guess and there is mental scar tissue there of course. Plenty of ex FCC staffers pop up on FB and Insta to regale stories from back in the day. I enjoy reading them, despite a few prickly egos and the endless p1$$ing contest that is - whos got the most FB likes for their bike ?

A huge number of spin off companies and bike industry talents were spawned back in Somerville. There is a book in there somewhere but it will probably never be written. With the exception of maybe Raleigh, not many other bicycle companies have such a rich history or created such beautifully handmade bikes in their halcyon days.

Its tough for Chris. He has to make a living, control costs, yet produce bikes worthy of his legendary reputation and ALL at price people will pay, no easy task. Most of the modern generation have never heard of FAT CHANCE. They dont have the resources to make a big splash in the current crowded market. Which brings me back to the main point, which the best marques in the car industry ( Ferrari, Mercedes, Porsche, Jaguar etc ) do so well, engaging with their loyal customers and showcasing that Retro is ALWAYS COOL to the next generation. They focus on past race glories and iconic models. People get bored of modern clones, so its important to raise awareness of the amazing heritage of FAT CHANCE and its DNA that still runs in so many current knock-off bike designs.

Stingercut · December 7th, 2018, 7:19 PM

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AB · December 14th, 2018, 12:53 PM

"People get bored of modern clones, so its important to raise awareness of the amazing heritage of FAT CHANCE and its DNA that still runs in so many current knock-off bike designs."

Very true - as far as marques go you could not do much better than Porsche will respect to racing, iconic brand recognition and engaging current buyers with their heritage.

Strangely I don't feel the need to purchase a new Fat.

Jassie06 · January 14th, 2019, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AB

Still here just the seemingly endless rain here in the Mid-Atlantic (past 4 months) has put a damper on things also.
Happy Holidays!

Sorry for the off shoot but there have been so many times that I have to laugh at my neighbor that moved to the NC to get away from extreme New England weather. On the other hand, I curse them for taking our snow with them. He can keep the flooding though.

Shamobius · January 22nd, 2019, 2:05 AM

I'm gonna say interest is cyclical.

See what I did there?

I am looking forward to building a 1989 Wicked Fat Chance soon. I want to compare the ride qualities versus my 1989 TC...

Will post a full thread and report!

Stingercut · January 23rd, 2019, 9:07 AM

Social Media & Inter-web trend driven by a number of key Influencers, is how it seems to be these days. Interested to see your thoughts on that bike comparison of same frames sizes. There is only one blindingly clear winner and undisputed champion imo, after comparing a TC v Wicked v Wicked Lite

Zooka · January 23rd, 2019, 2:37 PM

So .... Stinger which is your favorite ? I have tested and compared quite a few also

Stingercut · January 23rd, 2019, 8:04 PM

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So .... Stinger which is your favorite ? I have tested and compared quite a few also

There is only one stand out winner. Lets hear from Shamobius thoughts first

It was my first FAT and the one that got me hooked on the brand. I bought so many other brands/models of steel/Alu bikes and tested borrowed bikes against it, wanting to find one that bit better but guess what ? it’s still with me after all these years and it will go into my grave. Too many great rides and memories with it and it still amazing to ride today.

stevieb · January 26th, 2019, 6:18 PM

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backtofuturetoyota · March 5th, 2019, 8:17 AM

It's been a while, but I'm back to say hi!!! I'm in the Washington DC region and the winter is not nice to anyone wanting to ride outdoors. With that said, I'm getting too old and fat to ride hard! lol

Stingercut · March 5th, 2019, 1:00 PM

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Steve you must be the undisputed King of Ano

I-ROBOT · March 5th, 2019, 3:14 PM

Been hiding in my basement riding my new Peloton!

I know, it doesn't even come close to blasting singletrack but I've already ridden further on it than I rode all last year.

yeah, pathetic

Anyway, down 5 pounds so far this year

Spring is coming (so I hear)

Hope everyone is well
Scott

Stingercut · March 5th, 2019, 6:42 PM

^^ Good work. We need our Chief Master Craftsman around for a long time yet

November 29th, 2018, 5:40 PM	#1
Vagante Member Join Date: January 7th, 2016 Location: St Augustine Fl Posts: 34	Where is everyone? I can't believe there are no more posts on this site then I see. When I joined it was cranking. Now it seems like a mortuary. Where is everyone? Where did they go? They certainly aren't selling their fats because I don't see many on the market. When I look at the last post dates it makes me so sad.

December 5th, 2018, 9:13 PM	#4
mainlyfats Senior Member Join Date: August 13th, 2004 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 768	I know it's not really helpful - and a bit whiny and negative - but I wonder a bit at how the roll-out of the New Fat Chance has influenced those that kept the fire burning all these years. How the new venture not only wasn't born from this site, but that we've yet to be meaningfully engaged by the parent company when so many of us have been consummate brand ambassadors. That anyone can buy a new Fat Chance now, that it's a normal bike brand selling modern bikes, has perhaps taken some of the shine off this community of fetishists. It has made me at least a bit sad and I find myself adopting a "get off my lawn" stance as I continue to admire old tech and workmanship. I love the community aspect, though. I hope to keep on being a resource for folks who stumble upon an old mountain bike with bullet stays and end up here. If New Fat Chance fails and someone comes along to write a Harvard Business Review article on nostalgia marketing and the pitfalls of brand revival - well I guess I'll probably be around for that too. Last edited by mainlyfats; January 10th, 2019 at 9:40 AM.

December 7th, 2018, 7:04 PM	#5
Stingercut Senior Member Join Date: July 2nd, 2013 Location: London Posts: 604	@ Mainlyfats, you make some good points. The artisan bike market is very crowded these days. Chris and his associates should maybe engage more with us. You can only get wistfully nostalgic for so long about such things I guess and there is mental scar tissue there of course. Plenty of ex FCC staffers pop up on FB and Insta to regale stories from back in the day. I enjoy reading them, despite a few prickly egos and the endless p1$$ing contest that is - whos got the most FB likes for their bike ? A huge number of spin off companies and bike industry talents were spawned back in Somerville. There is a book in there somewhere but it will probably never be written. With the exception of maybe Raleigh, not many other bicycle companies have such a rich history or created such beautifully handmade bikes in their halcyon days. Its tough for Chris. He has to make a living, control costs, yet produce bikes worthy of his legendary reputation and ALL at price people will pay, no easy task. Most of the modern generation have never heard of FAT CHANCE. They dont have the resources to make a big splash in the current crowded market. Which brings me back to the main point, which the best marques in the car industry ( Ferrari, Mercedes, Porsche, Jaguar etc ) do so well, engaging with their loyal customers and showcasing that Retro is ALWAYS COOL to the next generation. They focus on past race glories and iconic models. People get bored of modern clones, so its important to raise awareness of the amazing heritage of FAT CHANCE and its DNA that still runs in so many current knock-off bike designs. Last edited by Stingercut; December 8th, 2018 at 9:55 PM.

January 26th, 2019, 6:18 PM	#13
stevieb Member Join Date: April 24th, 2013 Location: uk Posts: 44	Vive le fat Memory are foreverFB_IMG_1548358016575.jpg FB_IMG_1548357997249.jpg FB_IMG_1548357978433.jpg

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November 30th, 2018, 11:54 AM	#2
Stingercut Senior Member Join Date: July 2nd, 2013 Location: London Posts: 604	Negative Politics creates apathy.

December 7th, 2018, 7:19 PM	#6
Stingercut Senior Member Join Date: July 2nd, 2013 Location: London Posts: 604	Deleted.

December 14th, 2018, 12:53 PM	#7
AB Senior Member Join Date: July 15th, 2005 Location: PA Posts: 308	"People get bored of modern clones, so its important to raise awareness of the amazing heritage of FAT CHANCE and its DNA that still runs in so many current knock-off bike designs." Very true - as far as marques go you could not do much better than Porsche will respect to racing, iconic brand recognition and engaging current buyers with their heritage. Strangely I don't feel the need to purchase a new Fat.

January 22nd, 2019, 2:05 AM	#9
Shamobius Member Join Date: June 18th, 2015 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 39	I'm gonna say interest is cyclical. See what I did there? I am looking forward to building a 1989 Wicked Fat Chance soon. I want to compare the ride qualities versus my 1989 TC... Will post a full thread and report!

January 23rd, 2019, 9:07 AM	#10
Stingercut Senior Member Join Date: July 2nd, 2013 Location: London Posts: 604	Social Media & Inter-web trend driven by a number of key Influencers, is how it seems to be these days. Interested to see your thoughts on that bike comparison of same frames sizes. There is only one blindingly clear winner and undisputed champion imo, after comparing a TC v Wicked v Wicked Lite

January 23rd, 2019, 2:37 PM	#11
Zooka Member Join Date: May 24th, 2013 Location: earth Posts: 91	So .... Stinger which is your favorite ? I have tested and compared quite a few also

March 5th, 2019, 8:17 AM	#14
backtofuturetoyota Member Join Date: June 18th, 2013 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 54	It's been a while, but I'm back to say hi!!! I'm in the Washington DC region and the winter is not nice to anyone wanting to ride outdoors. With that said, I'm getting too old and fat to ride hard! lol

March 5th, 2019, 3:14 PM	#16
I-ROBOT Senior Member Join Date: January 7th, 2007 Location: Hudson, MA Posts: 425	Been hiding in my basement riding my new Peloton! I know, it doesn't even come close to blasting singletrack but I've already ridden further on it than I rode all last year. yeah, pathetic Anyway, down 5 pounds so far this year Spring is coming (so I hear) Hope everyone is well Scott

March 5th, 2019, 6:42 PM	#17
Stingercut Senior Member Join Date: July 2nd, 2013 Location: London Posts: 604	^^ Good work. We need our Chief Master Craftsman around for a long time yet

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