Is it manly to cry?

Retro Dude · September 29th, 2014, 7:02 PM

Not sure what happened...was just riding along, did a double shift (53-21 to 39-17), heard a double CRUNCH then the back wheel locked up. Looked down an FUUUUU.........!!!

colker · September 29th, 2014, 8:03 PM

Horrible.

fat-tony · September 29th, 2014, 9:59 PM

damn!

Stingercut · September 30th, 2014, 4:09 AM

Ouch !

chefmiguel · September 30th, 2014, 5:45 AM

Painful to look at.

Retro Dude · September 30th, 2014, 6:14 AM

It's worse in person.

Stripped the frame down last night & contacted a local frame builder - waiting to see if he can bend back into place and align the hanger.

Scott B. - Any concerns with cold setting the 4130?

colker · September 30th, 2014, 7:46 AM

It can be bent back.

yo-Nate-y · October 1st, 2014, 12:30 PM

Yipes!

...time to go Shimano

(if only for ease of replacement)

I-ROBOT · October 1st, 2014, 6:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro Dude

It's worse in person.

Stripped the frame down last night & contacted a local frame builder - waiting to see if he can bend back into place and align the hanger.

Scott B. - Any concerns with cold setting the 4130?

My guess is that you have a New York frame since the dropouts are different than what we used in Somerville. Actually most dropouts from Shimano, Suntour , etc were just forged carbon steel. Even if they are 4130, you can cold-straighten them. If you are going to re-paint, then you can heat it gently (GENTLY - enough to barely make a color change) and then the tool that screws into the derailleur mount and use that to bend the hanger back into place. I think Park and Campy both make nice derailleur hanger tools just for this purpose, since it happens all too often. If you are keeping the paint, use the tool and go nice and slow, a little at a time.

http://www.parktool.com/product/dera...nt-gauge-dag-2

If you're not brave enough to do it yourself, your local LBS should have the tool and the skill to bring it back into alignment

Good luck and keep us posted
Scott

Retro Dude · October 1st, 2014, 7:36 PM

Dropped off at LBS today, they're going to cold set & align - should have back tomorrow, fingers crossed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by yo-Nate-y

Yipes!

...time to go Shimano

(if only for ease of replacement)

Been thinking about switching over to Shimano but cost is holding me back. Need to look at what would be period correct, this is a '98 - would that be 7700/6500 8 speed?

tvcreative · October 1st, 2014, 8:21 PM

i think you will be okay, slow and steady with the drop out tool….

mainlyfats · October 1st, 2014, 8:34 PM

From doing this a few times at the service end of things, there will likely be some cracks in the paint. A neutral clearcoat/nail varnish will help before you put everything back together. But - as yonatey mentioned - do you have another derailleur in the wings?

Retro Dude · October 1st, 2014, 8:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainlyfats

From doing this a few times at the service end of things, there will likely be some cracks in the paint. A neutral clearcoat/nail varnish will help before you put everything back together.

Good idea, it has plenty of battle scars so some clearcoat on the dropout and another coat of wax is in order.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainlyfats

But - as yonatey mentioned - do you have another derailleur in the wings?

I do have an old Suntour Sprint derailleur I could install - but the indexing is not great.

Anyone have an old Campy 8 speed derailleur available?

.

colker · October 2nd, 2014, 3:07 PM

rather than rebuilding the whle bike into shimano i would just eat the price tag of an 8sp rear Campy derrailleur.
Too bad that shop that had everything campy burned down. East Coast. What was the name? They had all kinds of spare parts.

Retro Dude · October 5th, 2014, 7:01 PM

Back from the shop in great shape. Put some clear nail polish on the exposed areas, waiting for that to dry then will apply coat of wax.

Working a deal with my brother for an Ultegra 9 speed mini-group, stay tuned.

Stingercut · October 5th, 2014, 7:54 PM

Looks great.

chefmiguel · October 5th, 2014, 9:12 PM

Looks good to go.

yo-Nate-y · October 6th, 2014, 10:07 AM

Wow, maybe odd to say but those pics are such a relief.

Zamfir · October 6th, 2014, 10:11 AM

Steel is real.....repairable.

Repair looks great!

Retro Dude · October 6th, 2014, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yo-Nate-y

Wow, maybe odd to say but those pics are such a relief.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zamfir

Steel is real.....repairable.

Repair looks great!

Thanks, was a little nervous when I went to the shop to pick it up & told them I was picking up the purple road frame - the two guys looked at each other, I thought oh $hit. It was good though, wheel fits perfect & I'll check the derailleur hanger tonight.

colker · October 7th, 2014, 8:11 AM

Looks slightly off. It was bent slightly too much and then back.. It should work though.

September 29th, 2014, 8:03 PM	#2
colker Senior Member Join Date: June 1st, 2006 Location: rio de janeiro Posts: 1,043	Horrible. __________________ wanted: ride time.

September 30th, 2014, 7:46 AM	#7
colker Senior Member Join Date: June 1st, 2006 Location: rio de janeiro Posts: 1,043	It can be bent back. __________________ wanted: ride time.

October 1st, 2014, 12:30 PM	#8
yo-Nate-y Global Moderator Join Date: March 12th, 2009 Location: Tucson Posts: 809	Yipes! ...time to go Shimano (if only for ease of replacement) __________________ 1975 Witcomb USA, 1981 Chris Chance; 1984 Fat Chance, 1987 Team Comp, 1991 Yo Eddy, Monster Fat, and Wicked ....happy to have finally found a clean 80s Fat Team Comp with a box crown fork

October 2nd, 2014, 3:07 PM	#14
colker Senior Member Join Date: June 1st, 2006 Location: rio de janeiro Posts: 1,043	rather than rebuilding the whle bike into shimano i would just eat the price tag of an 8sp rear Campy derrailleur. Too bad that shop that had everything campy burned down. East Coast. What was the name? They had all kinds of spare parts. __________________ wanted: ride time.

October 6th, 2014, 10:07 AM	#18
yo-Nate-y Global Moderator Join Date: March 12th, 2009 Location: Tucson Posts: 809	Wow, maybe odd to say but those pics are such a relief. __________________ 1975 Witcomb USA, 1981 Chris Chance; 1984 Fat Chance, 1987 Team Comp, 1991 Yo Eddy, Monster Fat, and Wicked ....happy to have finally found a clean 80s Fat Team Comp with a box crown fork

September 29th, 2014, 9:59 PM	#3
fat-tony Global Moderator Join Date: October 13th, 2004 Location: birmingham, al - usa Posts: 720	damn!

September 30th, 2014, 4:09 AM	#4
Stingercut Senior Member Join Date: July 2nd, 2013 Location: London Posts: 606	Ouch !

September 30th, 2014, 5:45 AM	#5
chefmiguel Senior Member Join Date: June 12th, 2011 Location: NYC Posts: 307	Painful to look at.

September 30th, 2014, 6:14 AM	#6
Retro Dude Senior Member Join Date: September 5th, 2011 Location: Clay Posts: 510	It's worse in person. Stripped the frame down last night & contacted a local frame builder - waiting to see if he can bend back into place and align the hanger. Scott B. - Any concerns with cold setting the 4130?

October 1st, 2014, 8:21 PM	#11
tvcreative Senior Member Join Date: March 15th, 2010 Location: Naperville IL Posts: 716	i think you will be okay, slow and steady with the drop out tool….

October 1st, 2014, 8:34 PM	#12
mainlyfats Senior Member Join Date: August 13th, 2004 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 768	From doing this a few times at the service end of things, there will likely be some cracks in the paint. A neutral clearcoat/nail varnish will help before you put everything back together. But - as yonatey mentioned - do you have another derailleur in the wings?

October 5th, 2014, 7:54 PM	#16
Stingercut Senior Member Join Date: July 2nd, 2013 Location: London Posts: 606	Looks great.

October 5th, 2014, 9:12 PM	#17
chefmiguel Senior Member Join Date: June 12th, 2011 Location: NYC Posts: 307	Looks good to go.

October 6th, 2014, 10:11 AM	#19
Zamfir Senior Member Join Date: May 31st, 2011 Location: Spokane Posts: 248	Steel is real.....repairable. Repair looks great!

October 7th, 2014, 8:11 AM	#21
colker Senior Member Join Date: June 1st, 2006 Location: rio de janeiro Posts: 1,043	Looks slightly off. It was bent slightly too much and then back.. It should work though. __________________ wanted: ride time.

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