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Old October 14th, 2014, 4:30 PM   #121
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a 445-455mm igleheart fork on a 650b bike would be sweet -- and not too lop-sided

I think you can count on spending more like 2200 to 3000 with a fork and goodies.

look at what the other steel boutique builders are getting Engin cycles, 2500 (no fork), Desalvo 1800 (no fork), Indy Fab 1900 (no fork), Sycip 1800...

supply and demand, supply and demand

Love the POTTS 29er with type 2 fork designed for just enough mud clearance on a wide knobby up front
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Old October 14th, 2014, 4:48 PM   #122
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Chris approves. Photo from Biketoberfest in Fairfax last week.

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Old October 14th, 2014, 9:08 PM   #123
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I've thought about that and personally i'd order one if the frame sells from $1-$2k. Anything more might be a tough sell, for me.

BTW, I wouldn't pay that much for alloy or carbon. They just don't have the longevity of steel or Ti.

Forks would look a bit wonky if sus corrected, but they are such a classic FT design I would like it see them as a option.
I hear that. So... somewhere between a Geekhouse and Igleheart.

Fcuk... I don't envy him the challenge...
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Old October 15th, 2014, 2:42 AM   #124
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...have you tried 650b?
Thankx for your reply - yes I tried a german Radon ZR Race (ok, not really compareable to a FAT!) only why I was curious, but I did not feel the often cited advantages. I really prefer light agile bikes... but I'll wait how the new Yo Eddy definitely will look. Additional I don't like tapered head tubes on a steel bike. Also these f** integrated headsets are an invention by the "god of darkness" . Successive I like to show an interesting alternative made by german custom frame builder Georg Blaschke:









Except the colour (sorry Georg !) not bad, or? I will say that the special details of - for example a classic Yo - are making a bike unique and desirable for me. They make a bike different to the mainstream... if the future Yo is like the mainstream, than I could also by a Radon.

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Old October 15th, 2014, 9:01 AM   #125
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I see a little more Chris DeKerf than Chris Chance in that bike, but it's gorgeous.
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Old October 15th, 2014, 10:14 AM   #126
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I see a little more Chris DeKerf than Chris Chance in that bike, but it's gorgeous.
Agreed. And I like the color.
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Old October 16th, 2014, 10:34 AM   #127
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Chris approves. Photo from Biketoberfest in Fairfax last week.

Awesome!!!!!
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 2:18 AM   #128
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...and I like the color .
Georg will be happy to read that ! And you're right - the seatstays are similar to DeKerf... but all in all it's an independent design, maybe partially in line with some famous frame builders - I like it really! And you're able to choose between 26", 650B and 29" wheels... yeaah !

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Old October 22nd, 2014, 4:48 AM   #129
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Maybe there's a Mammoth poltergeist in the room but anybody got any intel on what's happening with our dear leader and his plans to take the cycling world by storm once again ?
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 4:00 PM   #130
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Maybe there's a Mammoth poltergeist in the room but anybody got any intel on what's happening with our dear leader and his plans to take the cycling world by storm once again ?
You can probably find out that information here, Stingercut: http://www.fatchancebicycles.com/
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Old December 28th, 2014, 10:59 AM   #131
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Old December 31st, 2014, 12:49 PM   #132
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Latest post for those who simply must know:

http://www.fatchancebicycles.com/yo-...s-coming-soon/

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Old January 1st, 2015, 11:30 AM   #133
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it's time to see one of these Chris creations - in my opinion

all this hype…is just hype

this mystery - the supposed collaborators - yawn

get er' done…then you will have my attention
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Old January 1st, 2015, 3:55 PM   #134
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I'm with you.
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Old January 1st, 2015, 9:37 PM   #135
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Eh. This sort of thing done well, shouldn't happen overnight.

I'm happy he's working on it. If it takes him a year, then I can safely assume it's a year well spent.
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 11:49 AM   #136
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Agree, the comeback is more keenly anticipated than a Tyson showdown. He has to get it right and produce a few bikes in the new lineup imo.
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Old January 7th, 2015, 1:20 PM   #137
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Default Fat Chance on Kickstarter

Looks like it's on https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...t-chance-frame
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Old January 7th, 2015, 9:14 PM   #138
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No rigid Yo Segmented Fork option
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Old January 7th, 2015, 10:42 PM   #139
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i think a kickstart plea for money - puts things in perspective…best of luck.

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Old January 8th, 2015, 12:45 AM   #140
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I hope it works out for him, but I'm waiting for a full suspension model before I drop that kind of cash.
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Old January 8th, 2015, 1:38 AM   #141
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and I'm waiting for the fatbike frame.

But in the mean time, I'm happy to put up the $250 for a nice new jersey, a couple shirts, and some stickers. Not sure I can get all the way out to California for the event, but I'll bet it'd be great.


I'm glad he's doing it on Kickstarter, and retaining ownership of it. I feel much better about him doing it the way he knows best, rather than taking investor $ and being beholden to external pressures and all that mayhem.
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Old January 8th, 2015, 11:41 AM   #142
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...in the mean time, I'm happy to put up the $250 for a nice new jersey, a couple shirts, and some stickers. Not sure I can get all the way out to California for the event, but I'll bet it'd be great.
...I'll do the same ! At the moment I can't bring the asked $ 2.500 for a new frame because we'll get our 2nd child in May 2015. So my preferences are a bit different at the moment... I would be very happy to go the event, but the way from Germany to California is far... we'll see !
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Old January 8th, 2015, 12:40 PM   #143
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I'll be doing the $250 option as well. I thought I'd have more time to get money for the frame but since I just got a new custom frame I'm tapped out. Good news is I'm only about 6 hours north so I'll be able to make the launch party.
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Old January 8th, 2015, 5:32 PM   #144
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Almost 1/2 way to the total already...looking good Wonder what percentage are new Fat City customers.
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Old January 8th, 2015, 5:50 PM   #145
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I hope it works out for him, but I'm waiting for a full suspension model before I drop that kind of cash.
Agreed.

When I ride modern I like FS.

That's rich for HT frame only when that money will buy a nicely built period eddy...
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Old January 8th, 2015, 8:28 PM   #146
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Almost 1/2 way to the total already...looking good Wonder what percentage are new Fat City customers.
less than 5% I would think.
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Old January 12th, 2015, 10:29 AM   #147
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At first I thought, a month isn't very long, and you don't get a do-over on kickstarter. I hope they didn't screw themselves over with that ambitious timeframe, & being in the off-season, but, the fund has had pretty good performance so far, for only being up for a couple days. It does seem that usually the lions share of the buy-in happens up front and then the last remaining percent takes 10x longer to roll in. ...still I can't help think if they'd add a $2750 option for a Fatbike frame/fork, even if it didn't ship til late fall, all that capital and locked-in pre-orders wouldn't hurt.
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Old January 12th, 2015, 11:26 AM   #148
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I just wish there was an intermediate level.

I'm in for a wickedly expensive t-shirt ($50), but $250 for a jersey + 2 t-shirts? I believe in Chris and really hope that he pulls this off - I would like to own a new Fat after we know what they really are.
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Old January 12th, 2015, 12:09 PM   #149
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I just wish there was an intermediate level, $2500 is pretty steep for a big unknown (manufacturer, quality, performance, etc.)


I'm in for a wickedly expensive t-shirt ($50), but $250 for a jersey + 2 t-shirts? I believe in Chris and really hope that he pulls this off - I would like to own a new Fat after we know what they really are.
Pretty sure they are being built by Ventana. So quality-wise, I don't think there's an issue.

That is steep for a stock steel frame with - as yet - no fork.


(That said, would you want a 100mm+ suspension corrected steel fork? Fugly...)
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Old January 12th, 2015, 1:43 PM   #150
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Pretty sure they are being built by Ventana.
Is that a guess, or is there some inside knowledge on this?
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Is that a guess, or is there some inside knowledge on this?
It's a guess based on the December 5th, 2014 Facebook post where they...

"took a field trip to Ventana Mountain Bikes USA. Thank you to Sherwood and Teresa for the tour of their awesome facility!."

No other field trips AFAIK.

I wonder if he spoke with Mike Flannigan - before the Seven move - to see if he wanted to build production bikes. That would have made for an interesting narrative.
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Old January 12th, 2015, 9:42 PM   #152
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ventana makes a nice alum bike

but i have never seen any steel offerings

Fats with electric sex welds?
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ventana makes a nice alum bike

but i have never seen any steel offerings

Fats with electric sex welds?
Ventana are making the new Koski steel frames too (as per Facebook). Seems like a very cool, dynamic production/business model if it that can absorb - or not - this kind of work.
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Well it wouldn't surprise me. Ventana's its own brand, but more importantly is a full-featured state of the art production shop whose bread and butter has been building frames for other bike companies for the last couple decades. They picked up all the domestic short-run production business as the stateside small production shops all shut down, and it really doesn't get better than their dedication to quality. Chris working with Ventana to build his frames is a best case scenario.
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Hmmm... Ventana would be a good choice. I hope you're correct and based on the FB post it sounds plausible.
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but i have never seen any steel offerings
There are steel pics on their website! Ventana offers a coupled version of their tandems as a standard item and they are steel.

The spouse and I have each had a Ventana for a time (Karen still) and they make a fantastic bike. I'd think Mr. Chance might get a few more frame sales if this was true + he shared the news.
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Well it wouldn't surprise me. Ventana's its own brand, but more importantly is a full-featured state of the art production shop whose bread and butter has been building frames for other bike companies for the last couple decades. They picked up all the domestic short-run production business as the stateside small production shops all shut down, and it really doesn't get better than their dedication to quality. Chris working with Ventana to build his frames is a best case scenario.
Agreed. This seems like a very viable way to go. - no question. You're going to get Chance's design and all the features that make it unique - make it a Fat Chance...and if it is Ventanna doing the production, you're gonna get top-notch execution.

A lot of the skepticism/criticism in this forum seems very strange to me. Times change and crowd funding as opposed to a bank loan for the sake of accountability is acceptable. I'm willing to take the gamble because I want to see this brand live. I want to ride a rigid Yo Eddy 29" for years to come.

Kickstarter goal has been achieved. I don't need a picture of a new bike to motivate a sale. I believe...I know what I'm signing on for. First look will be a NAHBS. Cheers!
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That would be very interesting... I've read that there are rules about contract-made bikes at NAHMBS, so it could be that that display prototype is actually made by Chris on borrowed equipment.
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That would be very interesting... I've read that there are rules about contract-made bikes at NAHMBS, so it could be that that display prototype is actually made by Chris on borrowed equipment.

Are you seriously suggesting Chris will actually fire up the torch/welding gear ? I expletive hope so. He started all this. Da Vinci had his helpers but he could still paint a pretty picture when he had to
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Are you seriously suggesting Chris will actually fire up the torch/welding gear ? I expletive hope so. He started all this. Da Vinci had his helpers but he could still paint a pretty picture when he had to
Is he going to the show? Scottp has the intel. apparently.

Ritchey brazed a 650b prototype a few years ago to comply, didn't he?

When I think Chris, I think brazing too. I had a lugged road bike and the earliest Fats were brazed. Imagine that... If the "I'm back" bikes are all fillet brazed by Chance himself. If so, he'd better have already started to toughen up the ol' hands...

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