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Old September 9th, 2014, 6:16 PM   #41
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You could just make the site visible again

Assuming that you are "Curtis Christensen, Director of Marketing, Fat Chance Bicycles. at 530.613.9842 or curty@FatChanceBicycles.com"
Hey Guys, I'm not Curtis, just a fat fan since 93 and still live in NY. But wow, great to see all the interest here and hope that Chris is doing well. On a truly related note you guys are awesome, the passion/bond is beyond description.
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Old September 9th, 2014, 8:37 PM   #42
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What I'm thinking the new Yo will have:

- steel hardtail

- 650b wheels, with clearance for 2.5" tires

- threaded BB

- 100mm fork

- 1.125" headset

... and the clean lines Chris has always made.
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Old September 9th, 2014, 9:51 PM   #43
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If he sticks to 26in and makes a superior handling machine.. i say he is back to legend status. Just don't build another 650B steel hardtail who wants to be better than carbon me too i have soul builder.
Everyone has that already.. cheaper.
Either he goes against the grain or it's sad.
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Old September 10th, 2014, 2:12 AM   #44
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Poor Chris, 20years out of the game and suddenly he's back to herding cats

Thankfully he has the gift.
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Old September 10th, 2014, 6:38 AM   #45
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He'll actually have to differentiate with paint, minor frame design touches and graphics.
Same as always.
As for price I think it has to be middle of the road. Fat was always cheaper than full custom anything.
I just hope they have longer head tubes this time. Stiffness is great but higher wider bars have really made mountain biking easier.
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Old September 10th, 2014, 8:09 AM   #46
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What I'm thinking the new Yo will have:

- steel hardtail

- 650b wheels, with clearance for 2.5" tires

- threaded BB

- 100mm fork

- 1.125" headset

... and the clean lines Chris has always made.

What I would like to see in the new Yo is a '99 Yo updated for disc brakes and a 100mm fork. That's basically what I did for my sons '98 Yo, added a disc brake tab & guides for running a mechanical disc & put a hydrocoil on the front.

As for color, bring back Grellow!
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Old September 10th, 2014, 9:53 AM   #47
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If he sticks to 26" and makes a superior handling machine... I say he's back to legend status! Just don't build another 650B steel hardtail who wants to be better than carbon...
Hi Fat-Fans,

I think the same and would be very, very grateful, if Chris would make his future frames for 26" wheels! I'm simply to small for bigger wheels...

Matching to this tread I found this nice video on YouTube, which I like to share with you !

Can't wait to see the first new frames... I'm very, very happy that he's back!!!

Best regards,
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Old September 10th, 2014, 11:04 AM   #48
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Poor Chris, 20years out of the game and suddenly he's back to herding cats

Thankfully he has the gift.

Assuming he is the primary one driving this, and not someone who wants to resurrect the brand and has $$ to commit.

Who wants to bet it's all fat bikes?
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Old September 10th, 2014, 11:07 AM   #49
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Who wants to bet it's all fat bikes?
Ugh. I live in Winnipeg and even I don't want that.
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Old September 10th, 2014, 12:24 PM   #50
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Hah!

What's next an Ad campaign with Fat chicks on Fat bikes ?

I like the idea of a Fat equivalent of a 911 Singer

Love the ethos http://m.us.wsj.com/articles/the-leg...57875?mobile=y
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Old September 10th, 2014, 3:09 PM   #51
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The new site is live, but apparently lacking enough bandwidth to do much.

Sounds like there will be a limited edition updated Yo Eddy and then the poll will determine the next phase.
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Wait a minute... Isn't that a Delux Redux?

Thinking on it a bit - and it may well be that you and I have differing views on what the brand means - I can't see how Fat could hope to compete with builders like Gallus, Black Cat, English (and on, and on...). There's a certain segment of car guys who must - because of time, ability, location or for timeframe reasons - buy their way into excellence.

From what I've gleaned on the sidelines of VRC, the two worlds don't quite map. The resto-mod in the bike world is far less valuable than the original. A couple of folks have tried their hands at it (what was that resto-mod bike shop that lasted a year?), but so far as I know the only really successful launch (if you can call it that - it certainly wasn't widely broadcast) was that tiny run of Potts-built Cunningham clones. Why on earth Joe Breeze - other than a healthy ego and adequate bank account - hasn't fired up the torch to bust out 10 Series 1 clones is beyond me.

There's a utilitarian ethos behind Fat IMO. Simple, light, ready to go... Across town, across Africa, around a race course, whatever... The thing that Fat had over brands - again IMO - was a kind of anti-fashion. It produced high-end steel in the age of aluminum/titanium. It still made cool, light forks in an age when everyone was going crazy for heavy, crappy suspension that had a maintenance schedule like a helicopter.

The thing about Fats - to me - is that Fat owners ride. They don't sit around pondering how a gram here or there might improve their lap time, they don't look for the route that avoids the puddle, they don't need a blanket between theirs and their friend's bike in the bed of the truck... Fat owners would never blame their bike if they sucked.

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Old September 10th, 2014, 7:30 PM   #53
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I don't see the point in making a new 26'' wheeled Fat. Aside from the nonexistent market, if you're one of the few people that really want a 26'', there are always several on ebay and craigslist, and they can be had for under 1500 complete.

Larger dis wheels would be the next logical step.

...and wider.
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Old September 10th, 2014, 7:30 PM   #54
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I voted 26" Fat Bike and I'm not apologizing.

Material Steel and Titanium.
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Old September 10th, 2014, 7:56 PM   #55
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The question of material and wheel size makes me think that we've probably put more thought into it than the kids in charge of marketing... Ugh.
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Old September 10th, 2014, 8:40 PM   #56
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i smell a ratů.i may tend to agree, that this is a face - for some other company's agenda.

But if i'm wrong, I'm in if it is a hard tail steel 650b disc with single speed options.

there's enough crappy carbon out there to leave a footprint for a million years.
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Old September 11th, 2014, 9:34 AM   #57
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Thumbs Up Nice Interview from Interbike...

Hi Fat-Fans,

Here I found a new interview with Chris from Interbike 2014 - very nice, the author (by mtbr.com) has shown a picture of my FAT Ti !

Have Fun!
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Old September 11th, 2014, 10:33 AM   #58
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Such great news for enthusiasts, and people who love quality bikes. I will check out the site and lend my opinion for sure.

Frames should be designed by Chris, steel and ti would be the obvious materials of choice. 27.5, 29 wheels, option of a segmented fork and steel stems, Chance designed adjustable dropouts to run ss or geared, and options of classic FC paint.

I would also like to see racy geometry without the silly trend of a super slack head tube and 0 reach stem.

That's my opinion, for what it's worth....
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Old September 11th, 2014, 11:01 AM   #59
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one more thing....it would be cool to see a grassroots race team flying the colors.

perhaps offer team discounts on frames?
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Old September 11th, 2014, 11:55 AM   #60
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Old September 11th, 2014, 12:54 PM   #61
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What about a living Yo Eddy in every Fat bike ? He talks to you, inspires you, talks about the spirit of the trails. A Fat with its own neural network which learns and adjusts its handling as you ride and makes you feel good about yourself. In steel and titanium please
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Old September 11th, 2014, 1:53 PM   #62
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What about a living Yo Eddy in every Fat bike ? He talks to you, inspires you, talks about the spirit of the trails. A Fat with its own neural network which learns and adjusts its handling as you ride and makes you feel good about yourself. In steel and titanium please
Hah. Sounds like something Shimano would try to do.
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I opted for 26" or 27,5"; trail or fat bike; steel and titanium.
Why is everybody in the states so convinced of 29"... in the 90s trekking bikes were for losers...
No, seriously - there should also be 26" wheels on FC bikes again, maybe as an option.
And I also reckon that the whole fat bike idea really fits the idea of rigid steel framed bikes with YoEddy genes.
Wrong path would be only making 29" titanium XC Bikes at astronomically high prices - where's the fun in that?

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I opted for 26" or 27,5"; trail or fat bike; steel and titanium.
Why is everybody in the states so convinced of 29"... in the 90s trekking bikes were for losers...
No, seriously - there should also be 26" wheels on FC bikes again, maybe as an option.
And I also reckon that the whole fat bike idea really fits the idea of rigid steel framed bikes with YoEddy genes.
Wrong path would be only making 29" titanium XC Bikes at astronomically high prices - where's the fun in that?

Greetz from Germany

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The 29" wheel size suits west coast (USA) riding quite well, especially open desert chunk riding.
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Hah. Sounds like something Shimano would try to do.
Or maybe a hook up with Apple

I was inspired by Chris's comments in the video about transferring his senses to healing the human body to bike concepts and design and making us feel better about ourselves. What a great concept. Apple watch and Yo Eddy....then just hit the trails
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The 29" wheel size suits west coast (USA) riding quite well, especially open desert chunk riding.
^ and the larger wheels smooth out the trail enough for me to not require full suspension which means less maintenance, less weight, quicker acceleration (with light weight wheels of course).
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...in the 90s trekking bikes were for losers...
...so cool, I think one and the same... maybe I'm to old for 650B & 29" in the meantime!!! Sometimes I really ask myself who has requested this movement to the "big wheels"... ?! Compared to a hot grello 90s YoEddy! the current bikes (29er, carbon and so on) on the market look soooo unsexy...

That's why I'm very happy that Fat Chance Bicycles are back!!!

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I just hope whatever format has the New England segmented forks. So delicious!!
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Hi Fat-Fans,

Here I found a new interview with Chris from Interbike 2014 - very nice, the author (by mtbr.com) has shown a picture of my FAT Ti !

Have Fun!
Daniel
Nice one Daniel! It is a bit odd that mtbr says "Many consider the brand..." but the photo of the Yo Eddy is an NY built version
Just sayin...

I hope he does well. (I need some new shirts)
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I finally got on to the new fatchancebicycles.com website and holy cow is it screwy. I hope his new bikes are better than his web design.
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Actually, that vertical action is the way the kids (and most everyone) is doing it these days....
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My vote would be for an aggressive trail bike, 26", steel, long and low TT, tighter CS, slacker HT, etc. I look forward to seeing what materializes.
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Correction - the article on Firefly is the Tube and Pipe Journal
http://www.tubeandpipejournal-digita...ayOq6z2kWi#pg1

I wish I could just pull up stakes and head out to CA and knock on his door unannounced, much as I did in November 1986. At this point, I could only do it as a hobby. I have some great memories of Fat City and some not-so-great, and I love being able to stay in contact through this fun website. It blows me away at how much you all love the bikes that we sweated over, bled on, and gave every ounce of our energy to produce. It really is an honor. I hope this version of Fat City is successful beyond his wildest dreams
was jot really good ?
i can't read it, its subscriber only, i was thinking he could could outsource making a ti by those fell's since they are ex I.F. and master anodising ti (-:

ohh and i voted about ten times now for 29-steel or ti xc (-: big wheels for big fella's (-: but would love it to be like the old eddy with near horizontal top tube and short head tube and his signature chain and seat stay's in any of the fade paint jobs, specially aqua fade, i nearly wen ahead on ordering an i.f. in aqua fade but pulled out on it..maybee this time ?

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I heard somewhere that Chris had been learning how to build carbon frames from Craig Calfee. I voted for race xc, steel or carbon, and either 26" or 650b. I think a fat chance fat bike would be cool but I'd save a different model for that, perhaps a monster fat or simply a "fat" chance.
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I heard somewhere that Chris had been learning how to build carbon frames from Craig Calfee. I voted for race xc, steel or carbon, and either 26" or 650b. I think a fat chance fat bike would be cool but I'd save a different model for that, perhaps a monster fat or simply a "fat" chance.
Oh man! Please no carbon! I know there are lovely bikes around made out of carbon, but a Fat Chance need to stand out from the crowd! Lightweight steel it should be...
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+1, I hope CC actually makes the frames.
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...me too! And a new steal- or titanium-frame made by CC! Please, please no Carbon... because everybody is doing that today! I really hope for "happy bikes for happy people", like in the special Somerville times . Simply timeless bikes with soul...
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...me too! And a new steal- or titanium-frame made by CC! Please, please no Carbon... because everybody is doing that today! I really hope for "happy bikes for happy people", like in the special Somerville times . Simply timeless bikes with soul...
Bang on

FCC were a major force for innovation and creativity bitd. Artistic flair, grafitti graphics, perfect welds, steel, maybe stainless and titanium. Personally, I'm not interested in carbon. Merchandise, I/we need merchandise and we want it now ! Please
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...we want it now! Please
That's it - can't wait to get new "Blah blah blah" Shirts! Today I got a pair of classic Yo Eddy! gloves by a friendly Fat-Cog... my day is saved ! If somebody is interested to know what the germans think about Chris' comeback, please have look here !!! I believe everybody is very, very excited...
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+1, I hope CC actually makes the frames.
+1, that would be the best.
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