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Old June 11th, 2013, 7:18 AM   #1
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Default 1996 ML FAT CHANCE Titanium #TFML008

So I picked this up from Germany a week or so ago, and was truly gutted when I discovered an undisclosed Ding on the Top Tube.. To say I'm embarrassed about it would be closer to the truth.. The Seller assured me there were no dings or dents and has become incommunicado.. Paying by Bank Deposit hasn't helped my cause of getting a refund/discount either..

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Moving forward..

I don't think that the Ding is life threatening, it looks like a handlbar swipe and doesn't appear to pierce the tubing [no crack/split].. Would it be worth doing anything to it? Or is this merely an imperfection I'll have to live with?
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Old June 11th, 2013, 9:04 AM   #2
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stickers are our friends...

once on, you'll be fine

make it a cool one

perhaps a band aid?

I have an Ibis Ti Mojo - and the same thing happened. I put a kick ass WTB logo on it. I never think about it now
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Old June 11th, 2013, 9:25 AM   #3
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..the same thing happened. I put a kick ass WTB logo on it. I never think about it now
Outta sight, outta mind?
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Old June 11th, 2013, 9:45 AM   #4
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Gutted for you Matt, I can't stand it when you hunt forever & pay a lot of money for your unicorn only to find the seller is withholding info that could have made him less money.

If I was the seller & if he has a conscience & Actively participates in the retro world ( which is a very close & honest community) I would at leAst offer a partial refund its only FAIR!!! So come forward who ever you are & see Matt right & let's keep this hobby friendly.

Anyway it looks good whatever mate!
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Old June 11th, 2013, 9:53 AM   #5
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Ooooor you could Just draw on it with a sharpie !!!!!
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Old June 11th, 2013, 12:03 PM   #6
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the guy who sold it to you definitely owes you one...

but it's not hideous, nor is it dangerous...just a heartbreak that needs a boo boo sticker to cover

how about a ringle, salsa, wtb or shimano?

I have a cool DT swiss decal on another bike
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Old June 11th, 2013, 5:35 PM   #7
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is it possible that it happened during shipping? I had to take up a claim once and ended up with all my money back and a free Wicked.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 4:02 AM   #8
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is it possible that it happened during shipping? I had to take up a claim once and ended up with all my money back and a free Wicked.
I have considered that, and am trying to chat to the Vendor about it, but he is now not checking his messages
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Old June 12th, 2013, 4:22 AM   #9
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What is the serial # of the frame?
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Old June 12th, 2013, 4:31 AM   #10
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what is the serial # of the frame?
tf ml 008
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Old June 12th, 2013, 8:40 AM   #11
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Too bad it's not 007..
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Too bad it's not 007..
Yeah I think 008 mighta been the Secret Agent that dies in The Living Daylights..
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Old June 12th, 2013, 10:35 AM   #13
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Yeah I think 008 mighta been the Secret Agent that dies in The Living Daylights..
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Old June 12th, 2013, 7:28 PM   #15
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I had this frame briefly in the beginning of the year, I quickly traded it to a guy in Germany who sent me a L Ti Fat in trade...This was probably who you bought it from.

For what it is worth, here is what I wrote to the person in one of my first exchanges in January in an e-mail thread titled: "Ti Fat Chance TF ML 008‏"

"It is very nice, there are a few small scratches, most can be buffed out and just one noticeable ding on the top tube where maybe a handlebar must've swung around and hit, but the frame is very clean and has no structural issues or cracks."

That's why I asked you about the serial #, I suspected it was my old frame which by the way that ding is cosmetic, just ride the bike and enjoy it...Not going to comment on the seller, my experience with him was OK.
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..that ding is cosmetic, just ride the bike and enjoy it..
Thank you so much for your comment, that has really helped moved on from this

I have had previous history with the seller and he was okay then so I don't know why he is being so difficult/dismissive now! Anyways, I intend to build this up and ride it good 'n' proper.. Will post photos of its progress
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Ooooor you could Just draw on it with a sharpie !!!!!
You sir are a Barbarian!!
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..just a heartbreak that needs a boo boo sticker to cover..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230997793708

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You sir are a Barbarian!!
Why Yes i am. And I ride like a Viking !!!
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Old June 14th, 2013, 4:25 PM   #20
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Do we all get a turn buying this frame?
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Old June 15th, 2013, 12:38 AM   #21
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Do we all get a turn buying this frame?
You can buy it from me once I get my hands on it again...
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Old June 15th, 2013, 9:54 AM   #22
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You can buy it from me once I get my hands on it again...
I have Mr Igleheart making me a sgemented fork for it, so selling it ain't gunna happen for a good while yet if ever

A lot of Bikes pass through my Stable, but this will sit perfectly next to my "Daily Driver" IF Deluxe Ti..
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Old June 17th, 2013, 3:19 PM   #23
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Hi Matt,
I will wait and see and if you want to sell it someday, you know where you can find me.
I think it's a big mess of my compatriot that he has concealed the dent. If I can help you somehow manage to put it in order let me know it. I am willing to help you in this unpleasant affair.

Always a grateful buyer of your bikes Helmut
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Old June 19th, 2013, 5:26 AM   #24
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..If I can help you somehow manage to put it in order let me know it. I am willing to help you in this unpleasant affair..
Thank you Helmut, you are as always a Gent

It is okay tho, I think there is not much to do but to move on from the Bad Sale experience..

Whilst I was drooling over the frame [again] the other evening, I noticed something poking out from the seattube into the BB shell.. I got a torch and checked out down the seattube.. And after some Jiggery Pokery with a Mangled Clothes Hanger, I [with the help of Mrs Roon] coaxed this from within..

I'm guessing it had been down there since '96
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Old July 19th, 2013, 5:39 AM   #25
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Parts Bin is filling..

Nuke Proof.. Campagnolo.. Gravity Research.. Syncros..
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Thank you Helmut, you are as always a Gent

It is okay tho, I think there is not much to do but to move on from the Bad Sale experience..

Whilst I was drooling over the frame [again] the other evening, I noticed something poking out from the seattube into the BB shell.. I got a torch and checked out down the seattube.. And after some Jiggery Pokery with a Mangled Clothes Hanger, I [with the help of Mrs Roon] coaxed this from within..

I'm guessing it had been down there since '96
That musta smelled Nice. AUGUST ???
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Old August 13th, 2013, 3:53 AM   #27
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Drivetrain started..
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Old August 13th, 2013, 12:39 PM   #28
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Thumbs Up Your nice Ti...

...is looking great until now !!! I like to see more...! Cheers, Daniel
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Old August 14th, 2013, 3:40 AM   #30
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Having a Run of Bad Luck with this Build

The Ding; a 29.4mm Syncros Ti Post going missing in the post; Chris Igleheart quoting 2 weeks but taking 2 months to build me a fork and now gone cold on Email..
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Old August 14th, 2013, 4:00 AM   #31
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Sorry to hear this Matt but all good things and that!
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Old August 14th, 2013, 10:43 AM   #32
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Just stay positive and try to be patient, in the end it will be worth it.

Chris took about 2 months to complete my fork, I also sent a few e-mails without a response which worried me some, but he came through brilliantly. I think he is just a busy guy and doesn't check his e-mails often.
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Old August 16th, 2013, 3:41 AM   #33
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Progress..
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Old August 16th, 2013, 11:51 AM   #34
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looks good ...I really like the RS fork on this bike
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Old August 19th, 2013, 4:31 AM   #35
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looks good ...I really like the RS fork on this bike
Thanks Dude..
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Old August 20th, 2013, 7:27 AM   #36
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Finishing touch
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Old August 23rd, 2013, 5:03 AM   #37
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Just stay positive and try to be patient, in the end it will be worth it.

Chris took about 2 months to complete my fork, I also sent a few e-mails without a response which worried me some, but he came through brilliantly. I think he is just a busy guy and doesn't check his e-mails often.
Got an Email from CI last night; my Fork is on its way

I have just missed the Boat on a set of Nuke Proof Combo Bars over on Retrobike.co.uk.. I cannot believe it.. Going to negotiate with the Buyer, see if my Need is greater than his..
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Old August 29th, 2013, 5:31 AM   #38
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Negotiated successfully and have the Nuke Proofs on their way to me

The Build is getting closer to the Target..
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Old August 30th, 2013, 2:06 PM   #39
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Hey awesome! I had those very same Nuke Proofs on my Ti Fat for years (until I endo'd and tweaked 'em).
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Old October 14th, 2013, 4:47 AM   #40
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So, I decided that with some Sunshine around this Weekend, I'd put some paint on the Iglehearts..

I'll send them off in the New Year for a proper baked job [almost certainly in that fade colourway], but for now, Rattle Can so I can ride the FAT Ti sooner.. Wait time is looking at 6 weeks with the guys I usually send stuff to!



Waited [Impatiently!] 24 Hours for the paint to harden and married them with the Fuselage..



Funny thing with the Nuke Proofs.. I'm not sure the QA process was all that hot in 199n; the Stem Clamp area was 24.4mm and the STI Clamp area 21.8mm.. Some Coke Can Shims will be required.. Got too late, so I wrapped some Masking Tape as an interim measure..



Anyone got a 1" Threadless Salsa Stem with a Cable Roller spare??
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