1991 Wicked Fat Chance parts problems

fatchance · April 23rd, 2013, 4:11 PM

Hey Guys, I just talked to by LBS that is building up my Wicked Fat and he told me that I am missing: the cable anchor assy., bb cable guide ( the push in kind) and also the bb spindle length is too long for my Shimano M730 XT front crank, (he said that the front derailleur can't shift the way it is now). What should the length of the bb shaft be?

ameybrook · April 24th, 2013, 11:39 AM

122.5. And the guide should be riveted on.

mainlyfats · April 24th, 2013, 12:55 PM

If you're using the original BB, that doesn't make much sense... Loosen the grub screws on the collars and move the whole assembly over. Slightly wider stance Q-factor wise, but it'll work no problems.

fatchance · April 24th, 2013, 4:09 PM

Ok thank you for the information. I talked to the previous owner and he said that the bottom bracket came with the bike when he bought it. Are the rivets for the cable guide special?

fatchance · April 24th, 2013, 4:11 PM

Also my LBS guy thinks that the spindle length is 137mm and that I would need one that is around 120-122mm long.

Retro Dude · April 24th, 2013, 4:34 PM

137? Wow, I'd politely ask them to remeasure. Maybe they ment 127

Take some pics & post them here, picture's worth 1k words.

fatchance · April 24th, 2013, 9:07 PM

Yeah that seams long to me too since he said it should be 120-122mm. Since it is the original spindle hopefully my LBS guy can figure out how to adjust it so it does fit properly. I will get pics. on here soon.

fatchance · April 26th, 2013, 2:27 PM

Here are some pictures of the spindle/ bottom bracket and some pictures of the nearly completed frame.

yo-Nate-y · April 26th, 2013, 2:29 PM

That actually does look super long. Can you measure it yourself to check? He's right about the length you need--if that thing is as long as it looks it could very well be 137mm and mess up the chainline/shifting.

fatchance · April 26th, 2013, 3:04 PM

I can't measure the shaft size right now, but I might be able to later. What would you recommend that I do to fix the problem?

fatchance · April 26th, 2013, 4:38 PM

Do any of you have a 120-122mm bottom bracket shaft that you would be willing to sell?

fatchance · April 29th, 2013, 12:45 PM

I found out that phil wood makes square tapered bottom bracket spindles, should I order one in 122.5mm ?

yo-Nate-y · April 29th, 2013, 6:37 PM

The Phil spindles are a different size, if I recall. There are threads here on it if you search.

fatchance · April 30th, 2013, 4:03 PM

Ok I will do a search on here. I called up phil wood and they said a spindle is $98 and they need special bearing to fit and they cost $20. Hopefully I can find an original spindle that is the correct size.

I-ROBOT · April 30th, 2013, 4:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatchance

Ok thank you for the information. I talked to the previous owner and he said that the bottom bracket came with the bike when he bought it. Are the rivets for the cable guide special?

Use a stainless steel rivet for corrosion resistance and strength. You could use an aluminum rivet if you wanted to but I believe we used stainless
Scott

fatchance · April 30th, 2013, 4:31 PM

Thanks for the information Scott. My Dad has a shop and he was able to find a rivet to fit the cable guide. I think the one he put on the frame is aluminum.

fatchance · May 1st, 2013, 5:45 PM

Instead of spending a lot of money on the phil wood bottom bracket setup, do you guys think it would be easier to make the spindle I have the correct size?

April 23rd, 2013, 4:11 PM	#1
fatchance Senior Member Join Date: January 11th, 2013 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 105	1991 Wicked Fat Chance parts problems Hey Guys, I just talked to by LBS that is building up my Wicked Fat and he told me that I am missing: the cable anchor assy., bb cable guide ( the push in kind) and also the bb spindle length is too long for my Shimano M730 XT front crank, (he said that the front derailleur can't shift the way it is now). What should the length of the bb shaft be?

April 24th, 2013, 4:34 PM	#6
Retro Dude Senior Member Join Date: September 5th, 2011 Location: Clay Posts: 450	137? Wow, I'd politely ask them to remeasure. Maybe they ment 127 Take some pics & post them here, picture's worth 1k words. __________________ inFATuated

April 26th, 2013, 2:29 PM	#9
yo-Nate-y Global Moderator Join Date: March 12th, 2009 Location: Tucson Posts: 807	That actually does look super long. Can you measure it yourself to check? He's right about the length you need--if that thing is as long as it looks it could very well be 137mm and mess up the chainline/shifting. __________________ 1975 Witcomb USA, 1981 Chris Chance; 1984 Fat Chance, 1987 Team Comp, 1991 Yo Eddy, Monster Fat, and Wicked ....happy to have finally found a clean 80s Fat Team Comp with a box crown fork

April 29th, 2013, 6:37 PM	#13
yo-Nate-y Global Moderator Join Date: March 12th, 2009 Location: Tucson Posts: 807	The Phil spindles are a different size, if I recall. There are threads here on it if you search. __________________ 1975 Witcomb USA, 1981 Chris Chance; 1984 Fat Chance, 1987 Team Comp, 1991 Yo Eddy, Monster Fat, and Wicked ....happy to have finally found a clean 80s Fat Team Comp with a box crown fork

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April 24th, 2013, 11:39 AM	#2
ameybrook Senior Member Join Date: February 16th, 2007 Location: Durango, CO USA Posts: 167	122.5. And the guide should be riveted on.

April 24th, 2013, 12:55 PM	#3
mainlyfats Senior Member Join Date: August 13th, 2004 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 726	If you're using the original BB, that doesn't make much sense... Loosen the grub screws on the collars and move the whole assembly over. Slightly wider stance Q-factor wise, but it'll work no problems.

April 24th, 2013, 4:09 PM	#4
fatchance Senior Member Join Date: January 11th, 2013 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 105	Ok thank you for the information. I talked to the previous owner and he said that the bottom bracket came with the bike when he bought it. Are the rivets for the cable guide special?

April 24th, 2013, 4:11 PM	#5
fatchance Senior Member Join Date: January 11th, 2013 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 105	Also my LBS guy thinks that the spindle length is 137mm and that I would need one that is around 120-122mm long.

April 24th, 2013, 9:07 PM	#7
fatchance Senior Member Join Date: January 11th, 2013 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 105	Yeah that seams long to me too since he said it should be 120-122mm. Since it is the original spindle hopefully my LBS guy can figure out how to adjust it so it does fit properly. I will get pics. on here soon.

April 26th, 2013, 3:04 PM	#10
fatchance Senior Member Join Date: January 11th, 2013 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 105	I can't measure the shaft size right now, but I might be able to later. What would you recommend that I do to fix the problem?

April 26th, 2013, 4:38 PM	#11
fatchance Senior Member Join Date: January 11th, 2013 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 105	Do any of you have a 120-122mm bottom bracket shaft that you would be willing to sell?

April 29th, 2013, 12:45 PM	#12
fatchance Senior Member Join Date: January 11th, 2013 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 105	I found out that phil wood makes square tapered bottom bracket spindles, should I order one in 122.5mm ?

April 30th, 2013, 4:03 PM	#14
fatchance Senior Member Join Date: January 11th, 2013 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 105	Ok I will do a search on here. I called up phil wood and they said a spindle is $98 and they need special bearing to fit and they cost $20. Hopefully I can find an original spindle that is the correct size.

April 30th, 2013, 4:31 PM	#16
fatchance Senior Member Join Date: January 11th, 2013 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 105	Thanks for the information Scott. My Dad has a shop and he was able to find a rivet to fit the cable guide. I think the one he put on the frame is aluminum.

May 1st, 2013, 5:45 PM	#17
fatchance Senior Member Join Date: January 11th, 2013 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 105	Instead of spending a lot of money on the phil wood bottom bracket setup, do you guys think it would be easier to make the spindle I have the correct size?

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