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Old January 11th, 2013, 12:43 PM   #1
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Hey guys I just joined this forum and I am in the process of looking for a fat chance. Do you guys have any tips of what I should be looking for?
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Old January 11th, 2013, 1:01 PM   #2
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look at old catalogues...

look deep into pocket book

look at others bikes

look out for rip off artists

look deep into pocket book again

have fun
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Old January 11th, 2013, 1:23 PM   #3
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Look deep into the bottom bracket area of your seat tube also
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Old January 11th, 2013, 1:39 PM   #4
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If you don't have a strong emotional connection to Fats - and I suspect that because you're asking you don't - I'd probably leave them alone. With precious few exceptions, old mountain bikes are really bad investments.

Apart from real fringe models, Yo Eddys/Titaniums w/steel forks are the most available collectible models it would seem. Earlier bikes don't command much attention or high dollar.

There are a few fringe bikes - 10th Anniversary, track and the Chris Cross - that are nearly unobtainable and - at least until cross recedes back into the muddy hole it has crawled out of in the past 5 years - probably gold standard Fats.

Trials, True Temper Kickers with unicrowns and weird one-offs always seem to me to be given away to good homes.

I don't believe that anyone actually sets out to buy a Buck Shaver or Bro Eddy. Betty's - not trying to be sexist - but there's only so many guys with sympathetic partners.

Wickeds, Teams and old race bikes seem to be more variable. They don't command high dollar though... 2/3s at most of a Yo.

I'd be looking at early bikes - Fat Mike NYC has tremendous examples - 531 frames, box crowns if I were getting into it now. These would be a shock to ride for most people familiar with modern mountain bikes (too short on the top tube, too little stand-over, too long chainstays, too slack head tube, kinda porky, too little brakes, etc.). Aesthetically and emotionally though, for me, they are tits.

Know that a full restore will be in the $2-$3K zone and worth about a half (Wickeds, Teams, Road bikes) to two-thirds (Yos) that when completed to a very, very high standard (basically NOS). Decals are tough if you're a stickler with a weird model.

Generally, we're a pretty mellow bunch here. Tell us what you're considering, how much, with some photos of condition and you'll get good feedback.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 1:40 PM   #5
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How the heck did fatchance last so long as a user name?
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Old January 11th, 2013, 4:36 PM   #6
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If you don't have a strong emotional connection to Fats - and I suspect that because you're asking you don't - I'd probably leave them alone. With precious few exceptions, old mountain bikes are really bad investments.

Apart from real fringe models, Yo Eddys/Titaniums w/steel forks are the most available collectible models it would seem. Earlier bikes don't command much attention or high dollar.

There are a few fringe bikes - 10th Anniversary, track and the Chris Cross - that are nearly unobtainable and - at least until cross recedes back into the muddy hole it has crawled out of in the past 5 years - probably gold standard Fats.

Trials, True Temper Kickers with unicrowns and weird one-offs always seem to me to be given away to good homes.

I don't believe that anyone actually sets out to buy a Buck Shaver or Bro Eddy. Betty's - not trying to be sexist - but there's only so many guys with sympathetic partners.

Wickeds, Teams and old race bikes seem to be more variable. They don't command high dollar though... 2/3s at most of a Yo.

I'd be looking at early bikes - Fat Mike NYC has tremendous examples - 531 frames, box crowns if I were getting into it now. These would be a shock to ride for most people familiar with modern mountain bikes (too short on the top tube, too little stand-over, too long chainstays, too slack head tube, kinda porky, too little brakes, etc.). Aesthetically and emotionally though, for me, they are tits.

Know that a full restore will be in the $2-$3K zone and worth about a half (Wickeds, Teams, Road bikes) to two-thirds (Yos) that when completed to a very, very high standard (basically NOS). Decals are tough if you're a stickler with a weird model.

Generally, we're a pretty mellow bunch here. Tell us what you're considering, how much, with some photos of condition and you'll get good feedback.



Now Ill give you my opinion from the other side of the spectrum. There are tons of riders out there for a reasonable price. If you're not in it as a collector go wild. They're still an American made handbuilt bike with a lot of history. They're a blast to ride. Be careful though. Theyre very addicting
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Old January 11th, 2013, 4:36 PM   #7
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Thanks for the great info guys. I am looking to spend around $800 or less if possible. I am looking for an 18-19 1/2 size frame that is in overall good condition. I have been looking on ebay and craigslist and ebay has high prices and everything seems to go quickly on craigslist, any thoughts about where else I should look to find a good price?
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Old January 11th, 2013, 7:18 PM   #8
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did you check out the monster on the bay?
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Old January 11th, 2013, 9:09 PM   #9
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I've happened into some very cheaply and some for more $$. I've sold some cheaply and some for more $$. $800 is a totally decent budget for something that isn't pristine and/or over-priced.

Get a sense of what you are after and keep searching. There are gems on craigs from time to time, but you have to move quickly.

Hell, I found my Chris Chance on Boston craigslist as a frame/fork. Got in my car and started driving! (I was in CT at the time). Good luck with the search!
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Old January 11th, 2013, 9:19 PM   #10
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Thanks for the info. I saw the monster fat on ebay and it is out of my price range and not really what I am looking for, but thank you for telling me about it. I will continue my search on craigslist and on ebay.
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Thanks for the great info guys. I am looking to spend around $800 or less if possible. I am looking for an 18-19 1/2 size frame that is in overall good condition. I have been looking on ebay and craigslist and ebay has high prices and everything seems to go quickly on craigslist, any thoughts about where else I should look to find a good price?
I've sold a good bike - a late 80's Fat Chance - with a totally restored drivetrain for about that, so you're in the ball park. If you can swing it, you'll see great bikes come up here in the $900-$1200 range. By great - my ex-mechanic roots showing through here - I mean bikes you can reliably thrash anywhere on unboxing.

My advice is to stick around and keep your eyes peeled on our classified. Might not always be be the lowest price, but a lot of the bikes that pass through here are quality rides from people who care.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 10:03 PM   #12
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Thank you for the advise. I will continue to look in the classifieds and I also posted a wanted ad on here.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 10:04 PM   #13
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Old steel mountain bikes are a steal. (particularly if you want a bike to ride) The Wicked Fat I just got off of Ebay was $580 plus $100 shipping. What would that $680 have bought me in a typical bike shop? Thats right horse dookie. Instead the Wicked is light, has aggressive race geometry and comes with full xt. Plus I think they just look better than most current models. Anyway if a Fat Chance is what you want it is very attainable just keep your eyes open.

oh and, like others have said, look out for rust!
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Old January 12th, 2013, 10:57 AM   #14
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Thank you for the advise, a lot of the fats I've seen have very little rust but seeing as these have steel frames that can turn into a problem.
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Old January 21st, 2013, 5:23 PM   #15
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I was wondering if you guys think I would fit a 19.5 inch frame considering I am 5"9?
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I was wondering if you guys think I would fit a 19.5 inch frame considering I am 5"9?
I'd say 19.5 is too big for something you actually might dismount offroad. Great for bike paths, etc. provided the stem isn't crazy (i.e. period correct) long.

I'm 6"3 and rode a 19.5 for years.
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Old January 21st, 2013, 6:38 PM   #17
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Ok thank you for the sizing information. I think a 19 inch frame will fit me considering I would not be doing much off road riding.
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If you are 5'9" you should be riding an 18

I am 5'10" and own a 19.5, and and several 18s

the larger bike calls for a much shorter stem and seatpost height, along with wary nuts.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 11:28 AM   #19
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Ok thanks for the information. I am actually 5"9.5 and in one of the fat chance catalogues it said that a 19.5 is good for someone 5.9.5-6".
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That is certainly too big for 5'6"!
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Ok thanks for the information. I am actually 5"9.5 and in one of the fat chance catalogues it said that a 19.5 is good for someone 5.9.5-6".
Is the catalogue from 1986? That would have been the prevailing logic/sizing of the day.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 3:24 PM   #22
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Oh is that sizing not correct by todays sizing standards?
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The catalogue from 1987.
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The catalogue from 1987.
Early bikes were sized pretty much as road bikes - hardly any stand-over and a short top tube made up for by extra wide motorcycle handlebars. By the late 80's this was largely a thing of the past, but I was sized for my first two mountain bikes with less than 5 inches of seatpost showing.

Longer posts that didn't break and long stems were the first real sizing innovations. The top tubes got longer in relation to seat tubes and broke the road bike sizing mould.

You'd fit on a 1987 19.5 Fat. There'll be a fist full of seat post showing and, hopefully, a fairly short stem. It's not great for offroad: you'll nail your nuts the first time you try and dismount if things get too hairy going downhill.

I'd wait for an 18. There are lots.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 5:50 PM   #25
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Ok thank you for the information and the advise. I will continue to look for an 18 inch frame.
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I need to buy a 7 speed shimano cassette and I wondering what gear ratio I should get?
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^^ Does this mean you found a bike?
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Old January 27th, 2013, 6:57 PM   #28
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Yes its a 1991 Wicked Fat Chance, I will post pictures when I get it. Sorry I didn't let you guys know sooner. I need to build it up from a painted frame and rigid fork. Mostly all of the parts came with it, now I need find the rest so it can be built.
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Ok thank you for the info. is that gear ratio good for all types of riding eg. hills, speed?
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Ok thank you for the info. is that gear ratio good for all types of riding eg. hills, speed?
There's no magic bullet. It's good enough and readily available.
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Ok great, thanks. Would you recommend the shimano HG50 cassette or should I look for a different model?
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIB-SHIMANO-...item43b763a18b
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Thanks for the link. I heard that shimano stopped making the hg70 cassette. That would probably make finding a hg70 chain hard.
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I actually just found a hg70 chain on amazon so I answered my own question.
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I'm new too but check out my new Fat Chance. Maybe this will inspire you. I must warn you though it's highly addictive.
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Thanks for the info. I saw the monster fat on ebay and it is out of my price range and not really what I am looking for, but thank you for telling me about it. I will continue my search on craigslist and on ebay.
Btw, It sold for $750 with no reserve. Keep searching, dont give up and don't let price range discourage you. Sometimes you'll get lucky and it 'll fall right on your lap. Good luck with your find!
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Thanks for information. I actually just bought a 1991 Wicked Fat Chance and I need to build it up with the parts it came with but I think I ordered the wrong bottom bracket tool. Would the bottom bracket on most fat chances be the tapered type?
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Yes, all were tapered. Congrats on the find.
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