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Old June 13th, 2012, 1:00 PM   #1
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Default Deluxe Redux?

Surprised this hasn't popped up here yet. Seems a conversation between IF's Gary Smith and Chris Chance at this spring's Handmade Bike Show has inspired IF to offer a classic version of their Deluxe. No details yet but the implication is modern materials tempered with old school sensibility. A few words on IF's Facebook page as well as in their most recent blog post...

http://ifbikesblog.blogspot.com/2012...-to-close.html

<tease on the Redux toward the bottom of the entry>
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Old June 13th, 2012, 1:54 PM   #2
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Well thats a teaser for sure !
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Old June 13th, 2012, 3:34 PM   #3
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Damn! and bringing back 3D anodized purple with a Chris Igleheart Yo fork to boot.
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Old June 13th, 2012, 7:12 PM   #4
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I would buy the purple king crap, but why buy an IF when there's plenty a good fatties to put modern parts on...

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Old June 14th, 2012, 6:41 AM   #5
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I would buy the purple king crap, but why buy an IF when there's plenty a good fatties to put modern parts on...

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Old June 14th, 2012, 11:36 AM   #6
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this is an old bike site right?

would love to see the finished product before I judge...

I am sure it will be nice...

I have owned a few deluxe's, and I have a 2005 Phil Ti Pissoff made by IF

they don't ride anything like my FAT's, but they do good work.

I think the family lineage needs to get reacquainted and hope this isn't just a marketing ploy.

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Old June 14th, 2012, 12:25 PM   #7
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Depending on my wallet and the price....I'd be seriously interested in this.

My only modern bike is also an IF (Crown Jewel SE). It'd be nice to add an MTB.
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Old June 14th, 2012, 1:18 PM   #8
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this is an old bike site right?

would love to see the finished product before I judge...

I am sure it will be nice...

I have owned a few deluxe's, and I have a 2005 Phil Ti Pissoff made by IF

they don't ride anything like my FAT's, but they do good work.

I think the family lineage needs to get reacquainted and hope this isn't just a marketing ploy.
I understood this to be a limited run of a new frame based off old school simplicity but with modern convenience (1/8 headtube ?, etc.)
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Old June 14th, 2012, 2:56 PM   #9
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Yeah, real limited. 36 unit sold as completes, thats going to be pricey !
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Old June 15th, 2012, 8:51 AM   #10
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Man, I am really curious about this bike. Too bad IF does not show more on their blog.
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Any news on this topic?
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Old July 5th, 2012, 2:10 PM   #12
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Any news on this topic?
I guess you have seen this?: http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/vie...er=asc&start=0
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Old July 7th, 2012, 12:35 PM   #13
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I understood this to be a limited run of a new frame based off old school simplicity but with modern convenience (1/8 headtube ?, etc.)
a 29er disc steel rigid frame and fork. wow! let's pay 2x.. cause it's the same ol' sam ol' thing everybody is doing.
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See Tony Pereira. He'll make you a heckuva 29er. Just as pretty if not prettier (fillet brazed) half the price.
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Old July 21st, 2012, 8:51 PM   #15
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http://ifbikesblog.blogspot.com/2012...uxe-redux.html

Pics and specs out. I have to say I am really not feeling it.

The paint is ...boring. They remind me of cheap-o fixies more than anything paying homage to vintage MTB. A pearl or some fades-- or classic Fat colors-- could have been awesome. These? Not so much. The names are cheesy and the finishing kit from Crank Bros is doing nothing for me. Flat black tat with lame color accents doesn't seem much out of the ordinary. As these are custom, a painted to match stem would have been a cool thing to do.

Better paint, and a neater parts spec and it could have been awesome. Why not have some homegrown stuff like Thomson for stem/post or some White Industries cranks? The made in the USA angle would have been really fun....even if they stuck with Shimano for drivetrain. Oh well..... who is going throw $6,000 at this?
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Old July 22nd, 2012, 7:27 AM   #16
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Well the offering looks like most of the IF products, clean and fresh...

The Crank Brothers bars and stem look good, but get terrible reviews for flex and difficulty to install/replace bars. i agree with Yo-Nate-Y that a thomson stem and seatpost would have been tastier.

the only thing similar to a fat is the short segmented fork and perhaps the color palette...

the only place where old school meets new school was in somebody's marketing plan...

the only reason to buy one, is being able to brag that you own one...

I would be curious to hear the thoughts of Chris on this offering...(I noticed his name isn't on it, which would make it more desirable)

I will say for the record that I own an IF PHIL pissoff number 36 (the only geared version) with a rigid IF fork and paid dearly for that right. Does ride better? Nah...but it turns heads on the trail and at the bike shop.

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Old July 22nd, 2012, 10:02 AM   #17
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I tend to disagree with the two previous posters. I think that the bike looks great. The paint jobs remind me of team violet and grellow. The blue is just a nice more modern scheme, that looks a lot like my Shock-a-Billy.

I like the unity of the Crank Bros parts too. Thomson does not make bars and their stem is not elegant enough imho for a skinny steel bike. The subtle color matched details on the stem look nice. Besides: try to find bars these days without screaming colors and or logos. I think that was the argument too for the XT gruppo, besides the fact that the XT gruppo has been around since the early days of mountain biking. It is just g

The fact that IF talked with the Chrisses (Chance and Igleheart) and came up with this idea is very daring and very nice. I really like the result and am very tempted to jump for one of these puppies.

By the way: I too am very curious about Chris Chance's opinion about these bikes!
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Thomson does make a Ti bar, or at least it will soon be available. And I think Thomson's stuff fits right in with any sudo retro theme this bike might carry, as the Thomson parts have that CNC look that was so in fashion back in the day.
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Old July 22nd, 2012, 11:23 AM   #19
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Oh, and if they are going to call it a redux, why not go back to the original decal designs from the 95 bikes?
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Old July 22nd, 2012, 11:50 AM   #20
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Why not just make 50 each - 29" and 26"(true redux)

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Old July 22nd, 2012, 5:50 PM   #21
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Like... Going full-monty on being rigid and doing it with the segmented fork. No "suspension adjusted" there!

Was hoping for something more "retro" inspired on the finish + kit. A good start but was hoping for more. Following thru more completely on the colors + period correct decals (pink-based on the lime, yellow-based on the lavender). Maybe working with Syncros on period correct posts + stems. Perhaps asking too much for IF to forgo their own signature (and really nice!) dropouts and going old-school there.

Another poster mentioned the Phil Wood bikes. They seemed more successful in my opinion. More of a representation of what Phil Wood was about with their approach to parts represented in a complete bike.

Even if it wasn't $6k I still would not bite. But it is an interesting effort and no doubt will sell out fast. Good for IF for giving it a go!
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Old July 22nd, 2012, 9:16 PM   #22
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For $6K you're better off with this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Team...item43aa2b2b30
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Old July 22nd, 2012, 10:04 PM   #23
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just looking at that pile of crap on ebay gets my blood boiling...BBCbikes - pricing is absolutely ridiculous.
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