1995 Independent FAT

kingroon · April 4th, 2011, 3:26 AM

I got this waiting for me at a mate's house in Lowell, MA.. One of the first IFs built, and technically every bit a FAT.. Serial # is IF 153 18 D

IF52 · April 4th, 2011, 6:21 AM

Team frame. Stonyfield Farm was a title sponsor. My friend Earl had one of those when he moved from riding for Fat's team over to IF's. I think Gretchen Reeves raced for IF at that time as well.

yo-Nate-y · April 4th, 2011, 12:23 PM

Cool frame

IF52 · April 4th, 2011, 4:29 PM

Definitely.

The earliest ones, like my old one, had Ritchey dropuots where the later early ones from 95/96 had Paragon. All the early ones had True Temper tubes, and the lore at the time was that they were built from tubes that were left behind when Fat moved to NY, though I suspect if there is any truth to that it is more likely that it was an order for tubes that Fat backed out of and young IF decided to purchase. The IF boys were really sensitive to comparisons to the Yo. I remember Elmo getting pretty worked up about it when some of us at the shop were making direct comparison. He made sure to point out the differences, like no domes stay ends and downtube cable routing.

Also I think, though I am not 100% sure that the early frames were straight gauge and not butted tubes.

colker · April 5th, 2011, 8:33 AM

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Originally Posted by IF52

Definitely.

The earliest ones, like my old one, had Ritchey dropuots where the later early ones from 95/96 had Paragon. All the early ones had True Temper tubes, and the lore at the time was that they were built from tubes that were left behind when Fat moved to NY, though I suspect if there is any truth to that it is more likely that it was an order for tubes that Fat backed out of and young IF decided to purchase. The IF boys were really sensitive to comparisons to the Yo. I remember Elmo getting pretty worked up about it when some of us at the shop were making direct comparison. He made sure to point out the differences, like no domes stay ends and downtube cable routing.

Also I think, though I am not 100% sure that the early frames were straight gauge and not butted tubes.

geometry was the same wasn't it? I suppose handling and stiffness were the same.

IF52 · April 5th, 2011, 9:59 AM

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Originally Posted by colker

geometry was the same wasn't it? I suppose handling and stiffness were the same.

Yeah I think they were identical

StarTREK · April 5th, 2011, 10:47 AM

Attention, this topic promised.

He dicho
ein?

kingroon · April 6th, 2011, 4:26 AM

Cheers for the replies Amigos, and thanks for the provenance IF52

After much thought, it's going to stay as is; not sure I wanna redo the paint.. Maybe some touching up to cover the bare metal, but it kinda deserves to be rebuilt and hammered

Found an article on IFRider.. http://www.ifrider.com/back-in-the-day/

gump · April 11th, 2011, 1:15 PM

Good move Matt, keep it looking original!

Look forward to seeing this built

AB · May 8th, 2011, 10:51 AM

Customers could also order this paint scheme - a friend of mine has one and was not on the IF team.

IF52 · May 8th, 2011, 3:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AB

Customers could also order this paint scheme - a friend of mine has one and was not on the IF team.

Yeah, I meant to say team paint, not team frame. Kind of like team violet was available to anybody who wanted it, and on any frame you wanted it on.

kingroon · May 9th, 2011, 3:07 AM

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Originally Posted by IF52

Yeah, I meant to say team paint, not team frame. Kind of like team violet was available to anybody who wanted it, and on any frame you wanted it on.

It's a special frame either way

Got a Parts Bin stacked with Trickno' for this build.. Because of the Monotone paint [apart from the Udders

] I'm gunna hang some colour off of this Rig.. Got some Rasta PAULs kit, Red, Green & Black Ringle, Gold Chris King.. Looking for a nice set of Umma Gummas

Forks are an issue tho.. Finding some suspension corrected Yo/BOIs is near impossible.. Might have to go with Judy SLs

but I'd like to find something a bit different..

kingroon · May 9th, 2011, 3:11 AM

FYI Here is a '99 IF I built up last year..

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/...98eafe_b_d.jpg

IF52 · May 9th, 2011, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kingroon

It's a special frame either way

Oh, heck yeah it is. I almost bought the one on IfRider a few years back, but something about the ebay auction made me have second thought. Really wish I had bought it now, would have fit my wife quite nicely. The frame size, not the cow theme.

April 4th, 2011, 6:21 AM	#2
IF52 Senior Member Join Date: October 1st, 2006 Location: Ohio USA Posts: 414	Team frame. Stonyfield Farm was a title sponsor. My friend Earl had one of those when he moved from riding for Fat's team over to IF's. I think Gretchen Reeves raced for IF at that time as well. __________________ M.O.M. Keep your mudflaps down

April 4th, 2011, 4:29 PM	#4
IF52 Senior Member Join Date: October 1st, 2006 Location: Ohio USA Posts: 414	Definitely. The earliest ones, like my old one, had Ritchey dropuots where the later early ones from 95/96 had Paragon. All the early ones had True Temper tubes, and the lore at the time was that they were built from tubes that were left behind when Fat moved to NY, though I suspect if there is any truth to that it is more likely that it was an order for tubes that Fat backed out of and young IF decided to purchase. The IF boys were really sensitive to comparisons to the Yo. I remember Elmo getting pretty worked up about it when some of us at the shop were making direct comparison. He made sure to point out the differences, like no domes stay ends and downtube cable routing. Also I think, though I am not 100% sure that the early frames were straight gauge and not butted tubes. __________________ M.O.M. Keep your mudflaps down

April 5th, 2011, 10:47 AM	#7
StarTREK Member Join Date: August 1st, 2008 Location: Toledo Posts: 52	Attention, this topic promised. He dicho ein? __________________ Team Fat Chance

April 6th, 2011, 4:26 AM	#8
kingroon Member Join Date: April 24th, 2006 Location: West One Four Posts: 47	Cheers for the replies Amigos, and thanks for the provenance IF52 After much thought, it's going to stay as is; not sure I wanna redo the paint.. Maybe some touching up to cover the bare metal, but it kinda deserves to be rebuilt and hammered Found an article on IFRider.. http://www.ifrider.com/back-in-the-day/ __________________ Hasta Luego.. KingRoon

May 9th, 2011, 3:11 AM	#13
kingroon Member Join Date: April 24th, 2006 Location: West One Four Posts: 47	FYI Here is a '99 IF I built up last year.. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/...98eafe_b_d.jpg __________________ Hasta Luego.. KingRoon

April 4th, 2011, 12:23 PM	#3
yo-Nate-y Global Moderator Join Date: March 12th, 2009 Location: Tucson Posts: 809	Cool frame

April 11th, 2011, 1:15 PM	#9
gump New Member Join Date: November 4th, 2005 Location: Bicester, England Posts: 10	Good move Matt, keep it looking original! Look forward to seeing this built

May 8th, 2011, 10:51 AM	#10
AB Senior Member Join Date: July 15th, 2005 Location: PA Posts: 308	Customers could also order this paint scheme - a friend of mine has one and was not on the IF team.

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