Nerdy Q for U

bonsaii · December 8th, 2009, 11:40 AM

Characteristics of MA and NY produced FAT..

Are there frames that were produced, partly or total in MA, but got serial number in NY? Or was tubes and other building components transported from MA, and assembeled in NY?

Reason for this question is a NY frame I have, which has the MA produced bullit ends on the backstays tubes. I've noticed that Vibs Betty have welded bullits, but the NY Yo doesn't.. Could this Yo be an over-ride from the MA production site?

jbrannsten · December 8th, 2009, 1:31 PM

Doesn't that frame you have come with both the MA flag and the NY decal?

bonsaii · December 8th, 2009, 2:33 PM

Yes, that's correct. NY flag low and MA flag high on the set tube.

I-ROBOT · December 9th, 2009, 12:52 PM

Hey Bonsaii

Sorry I've haven't been around the site much lately.

It is not likely that any frame that was at least tacked welded together in Somerville would have had a serial number applied in NY. The first order of business was to stamp serial numbers in the BBs before anything went on the frame jig.

It is possible that stamped BBs that had not been installed into frames may have gone to NY and then built up into frames but very unlikely for the other way around unless they pulled out the BBs from tacked frames and re-numbered them. I have no idea what went on out there.

All of the tubing inventory was shipped to NY along with all of the frames that were in progress. There were probably at least a couple hundred that were in various states of completion when the power company walked in and pulled the fuses and locked the electrical panels. Hard to believe that was 15 years ago now.

Hope this answers your question.
Scott "I-Robot" Bengtson
Fat City Somerville Chief Welder
1986 - 1994

bonsaii · December 16th, 2009, 1:59 PM

Thanks for such a good answer to my question, Fat guru. So cool to have people like you around!

Quote:

Originally Posted by I-ROBOT

Hey Bonsaii

Sorry I've haven't been around the site much lately.

It is not likely that any frame that was at least tacked welded together in Somerville would have had a serial number applied in NY. The first order of business was to stamp serial numbers in the BBs before anything went on the frame jig.

It is possible that stamped BBs that had not been installed into frames may have gone to NY and then built up into frames but very unlikely for the other way around unless they pulled out the BBs from tacked frames and re-numbered them. I have no idea what went on out there.

All of the tubing inventory was shipped to NY along with all of the frames that were in progress. There were probably at least a couple hundred that were in various states of completion when the power company walked in and pulled the fuses and locked the electrical panels. Hard to believe that was 15 years ago now.

Hope this answers your question.
Scott "I-Robot" Bengtson
Fat City Somerville Chief Welder
1986 - 1994

lucifer · December 17th, 2009, 3:13 PM

My buckshaver has a mass serial number and is a 94 based on the number but the color of the paint and the decals are all correct for a NY bike from 96.

December 8th, 2009, 11:40 AM	#1
bonsaii Senior Member Join Date: May 26th, 2005 Location: Lommedalen, Norway Posts: 244	Nerdy Q for U Characteristics of MA and NY produced FAT.. Are there frames that were produced, partly or total in MA, but got serial number in NY? Or was tubes and other building components transported from MA, and assembeled in NY? Reason for this question is a NY frame I have, which has the MA produced bullit ends on the backstays tubes. I've noticed that Vibs Betty have welded bullits, but the NY Yo doesn't.. Could this Yo be an over-ride from the MA production site? __________________ 90' wicked blue black 18" (00149W) 92' yo eddy team jersey (539Y2MS) 93' titanium (049T3M) 93' monster fat aquafade (025M3M) 94' buck shaver metallic charcoal (134B4S) 98' yo betty! raspberry ice (YB 14 044)

December 8th, 2009, 1:31 PM	#2
jbrannsten Global Moderator Join Date: June 13th, 2006 Location: Lommedalen, Norway Posts: 158	Doesn't that frame you have come with both the MA flag and the NY decal? __________________ -------- Current bikes: '91 M Yo \| '91 S Monster \| '93 S/M Yo \| '93 Buck Shaver \| '94 M Ti \| '94 S/M Yo, rust in seat tube. Saved by C. igleheart \| '97 S/M Bro Eddy \| '97 Klein Quantum Pro \| '97 Klein Quantum Pro, Jade Chamelion \| Previous bikes: '92 M Yo Team Violet, stolen in '95 never recovered \| '92 M Yo, rust in seat and down tube, not possible to save \| '93 Klein Attitude Moonrise, stolen in '95 never recovered \| '98 Trek 9900 OCLV, sold

December 8th, 2009, 2:33 PM	#3
bonsaii Senior Member Join Date: May 26th, 2005 Location: Lommedalen, Norway Posts: 244	Yes, that's correct. NY flag low and MA flag high on the set tube. __________________ 90' wicked blue black 18" (00149W) 92' yo eddy team jersey (539Y2MS) 93' titanium (049T3M) 93' monster fat aquafade (025M3M) 94' buck shaver metallic charcoal (134B4S) 98' yo betty! raspberry ice (YB 14 044)

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December 9th, 2009, 12:52 PM	#4
I-ROBOT Senior Member Join Date: January 7th, 2007 Location: Hudson, MA Posts: 425	Hey Bonsaii Sorry I've haven't been around the site much lately. It is not likely that any frame that was at least tacked welded together in Somerville would have had a serial number applied in NY. The first order of business was to stamp serial numbers in the BBs before anything went on the frame jig. It is possible that stamped BBs that had not been installed into frames may have gone to NY and then built up into frames but very unlikely for the other way around unless they pulled out the BBs from tacked frames and re-numbered them. I have no idea what went on out there. All of the tubing inventory was shipped to NY along with all of the frames that were in progress. There were probably at least a couple hundred that were in various states of completion when the power company walked in and pulled the fuses and locked the electrical panels. Hard to believe that was 15 years ago now. Hope this answers your question. Scott "I-Robot" Bengtson Fat City Somerville Chief Welder 1986 - 1994

December 17th, 2009, 3:13 PM	#6
lucifer Senior Member Join Date: October 23rd, 2004 Location: Athens, Ga USA Posts: 415	My buckshaver has a mass serial number and is a 94 based on the number but the color of the paint and the decals are all correct for a NY bike from 96.

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