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Old September 10th, 2009, 2:53 PM   #1
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Attention! Idea for something...

With the lack of places to sell things in the U.S. for vintage stuff outside of ePay, plus the sales rules at the MTBR forums, the heavy classified traffic on Retrobike got me to thinking.

Would anyone be interested in a vintage MTB classifieds site?



Purely classifieds, no discussion forums or anything, and free to list. Think it would get used?
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Old September 10th, 2009, 3:05 PM   #2
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I think it would get a ton of use once the word spread

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Old September 10th, 2009, 4:20 PM   #3
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I think it would fly. I know I would participate.
Ebay and paypal fees have gotten ridiculous.
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Old September 11th, 2009, 7:33 AM   #4
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It would be nice to have it tied to this or another forum. eBay does suck in some ways, but the protections for buyers are good, if sometimes onerous for sellers. I'd like to be able to cross-link who is listing classifieds and their longer-term online personas.
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Old September 12th, 2009, 12:59 PM   #6
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Doug, I concur with the others. It's a good idea and spreading the news by word of
"mouth" (i.e. the Internet) is so quick that such a list would catch on.

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Old September 12th, 2009, 9:30 PM   #7
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Attention!

Ok, I got in the first decent ride (albeit on pavement) on the new.old Wicked, and it allowed me to do some thinking. I came home, dried off, and started to put this together.

The basic site and forum is up and running, and active for registrations, but I have not set up ANY forums or even the details of the way anything will be structured. I'll probably do that during the F1 race tomorrow morning, and everything should be done and ready for posting by the Sunday night football game. I haven't even run through the Control Panel yet to control the way graphics, photos or registration takes place. Don't bother posting anything until I give the go-ahead tomorrow.


You can find a sneak preview here: http://www.oldschoolmtbclassifieds.com/forums


Seeing as how oldschoolmtb.com isn't being used anymore, I figured I'd take back the intellectual property of the old logo I did.

Get your stuff ready to sell, because now there is a good place for us that doesn't involve eBay or paying fees.



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Old September 13th, 2009, 8:37 AM   #8
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Doug, On the Classic Rendezvous forum, there is a very narrow definition of "classic" or in this case, "Old-School". Iirc, the accepted definition of classic there is anything from just before WWII up to 1983. Do you have a date range in mind you'd like to see observed for items being listed for sale on the new site? 1979 would probably be a good starting point and 1994 would be a good cut off year. Imo, 1994 represents the zenith of hard-tail mountain bikes as a "breed"... but I'd be willing to include anything as late as 1995... Cheers, and good luck with the new site! KP
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Doug,

Great idea. And just in time as I plan on clearing out a lot of the stuff in my bike parts room.
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Placing a cut off date can be kind of tricky and limiting. Fat City made bikes well past 95, along with other significant MTB contributors in the industry such as Ibis, Ritchey etc. Then there's folks like Paul's Components, Phil Wood, Chris King etc. who still make "new" old school parts commonly used in resto's,
so how do you deal with that?
And I'm assuming "frames for sale" would be included in a section somewhere on the site.
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Placing a cut off date can be kind of tricky and limiting. Fat City made bikes well past 95, along with other significant MTB contributors in the industry such as Ibis, Ritchey etc. Then there's folks like Paul's Components, Phil Wood, Chris King etc. who still make "new" old school parts commonly used in resto's,
so how do you deal with that?
And I'm assuming "frames for sale" would be included in a section somewhere on the site.
That's a very good point. Think of the fact that Cane Creek now makes a 1 inch 'classic' headset specifically for the reason that there are people who are enthusiastic about 'vintage' bikes and need a high quality headset option.
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Ok guys, it's open for postings. I will be making changes and alterations to it all day today, but you can start posting and "spreading the word."

If you have any suggestions for content and organizations
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Placing a cut off date can be kind of tricky and limiting. Fat City made bikes well past 95, along with other significant MTB contributors in the industry such as Ibis, Ritchey etc. Then there's folks like Paul's Components, Phil Wood, Chris King etc. who still make "new" old school parts commonly used in resto's,
so how do you deal with that?
And I'm assuming "frames for sale" would be included in a section somewhere on the site.
I have to agree with rthomer on this as well. I'd vote for early 80's to 1999 as far as most bikes and parts go. Seems to me that after 1999 things started to change pretty quickly in MTB.
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good idea.
Ditto! I'd certainly check it often.
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Old September 13th, 2009, 8:59 PM   #15
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It's up and running... http://www.oldschoolmtbclassifieds.com/forums

Still some little issues to fix, but mostly functional.
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If your browser won't keep you logged into the site try this URL instead:

http://www.apexspeed.com/oldschoolmt...ifieds/forums/
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Ok, any ideas how to spread the word without stepping on any toes and making people mad?




I'm gonna give it 6-9 months to see if it can work. So far, it's doing well.
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Ok, any ideas how to spread the word without stepping on any toes and making people mad?




I'm gonna give it 6-9 months to see if it can work. So far, it's doing well.
If I have learned one thing running my own business over the last 8 years is that it's nearly impossible not to step on toes or make people mad. What you need to remember is that there is a big difference between giving someone offense and someone taking offense. The difference is in your intentions; some people will take offense no matter what you do. Do what you think is right for the site and let the chips fall where they may. I have tried not to do things in order not to step on others toes or make them mad, only to have someone else go for it. Basically your leaving $$$ on the table that will get spent somewhere else. You may as well be the one to earn them. Good luck, KP
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Doug,

i can't log, post or anything on the classifieds becasue i don't have a msn, skype, icq etc... i don't have those things nor i want them.


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i can't log, post or anything on the classifieds becasue i don't have a msn, skype, icq etc... i don't have those things nor i want them.


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Sorry Flav, I just noticed this. Not sure what you mean, the only required registration fields are name and location. You don't need any of those other means of internet communication to be a part of the forums here or there.


Well, just about 3 months of the classified stand-alone forum, and it has had very slow progress, and not so much traffic. I am not an active member of too many other bike communities, so I'm not able to promote it like it should be. Word of mouth isn't working, and I'm not going to keep spamming other forums with the news of the site.

I'm going to give it another 2-3 months, and if there is not much more growth or activity, I'm going to pull the plug on the OSMTB Classifieds. If you guys want it to stay, it needs to be used and promoted to others in the OSMTB world.



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Old December 27th, 2009, 5:43 PM   #21
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Default retrobike.uk only other option?

Since recently joining fatcogs, I've had to "start from scratch" on acquiring a bike, and parts to bolt up to it. Besides the ubiquitous CL or Ebay, the only other viable option for parts trading/selling/buying is retrobike.uk. No offense, but the format for finding stuff blows. Scrolling through a 2-3 page thread is about as fun as lacing a wheel. I haven't even posted yet and keeping that up has gotta be a goat rodeo once stuff starts to sell.

The USA thread (sticky) has very little activity. Don't get me wrong, retrobike.uk is an awesome site and a resource to be fully supported. I just don't think the masses of Americans looking for parts should go hunting for something that started here, went over there, and is now for sale back to us. The interchange of commerce on vintage MTB parts has gotta be one of the craziest out there.

MTBR.com has the classifieds, but you have to pay to play (nominal but still an outlay). There is nothing like a free forum for community members supporting each other. The owners of vintage Spezy, Bonty, Bridgey, Ritchey, etc., should all jump on board and get the traffic flowing. If nothing else, out of respect to the guy who put it all together. If all the registered members of fatcogs posted a stem, saddle, post, or ti bolt there, traffic would pick up. Nothing like gorilla marketing in a lame economy.

I would think more American OS MTBers would be quick to promote and use this relatively new forum. ****, I bought parts for a bike I don't even have yet (thanks Eli).
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I thought so, too. I am surprised there hasn't been more word-of-mouth to help it grow. Been pretty stale to this point, with only 30 regular users checking into the site.

There are enough hardcore MTB collectors out there to make it worthwhile
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Old August 16th, 2010, 4:48 PM   #24
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Whelp, it's almost been a year on the MTB vintage classifieds forum, and there is almost no use from anyone outside the Fat community here. There are only 14 active users (anyone who has checked in during the last 30 days one or more times), so it's not worth it to keep paying to renew the domain or anything else.

I'll be shutting that site down in the next few weeks, so if you have PMs or information over there that you want saved, you had better get it soon.



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