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Old August 14th, 2008, 11:19 AM   #1
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Default Ideas on the value of a Ti Fat Chance Yo?

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A buddy of mine asked me what the fair price of a ridden (of course) but not very abused (mostly ridden on road) Ti Yo Frame would be. It's a medium (if it were a large I'd have told him that there had been a recall and I'd take $100 to take it off his hands), but these are so rare, I don't really know what to tell him. Anybody have any advice?
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Old August 14th, 2008, 11:35 AM   #2
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$1000-$2000 USD depending on the market, condition, size etc.
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Old August 14th, 2008, 1:32 PM   #3
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It also depends on if the frame has machined tubes for the downtube and chainstays or if it is sleeved.
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Old August 14th, 2008, 4:53 PM   #4
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Agree, I think in general area around 1k makes sense. I would be a bit surprised to see it hit 2,000, but you never know. I am interested in a Medium Ti, and 1993 1994 Somervilles suspension adjusted would certainly peak my interest.

Keep us informed, I am definitely interested if he decides to sell. But the market seems pretty random on the rarer Fats and the good money seems to be in the Yo's.

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Old August 14th, 2008, 6:44 PM   #5
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I think it's a 94 Sommerville, if it goes on sale I'll let you guys know. He has an interested buyer and wanted to know what's fair, but I'll tell him if there is a broader market.

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Agree, I think in general area around 1k makes sense. I would be a bit surprised to see it hit 2,000, but you never know. I am interested in a Medium Ti, and 1993 1994 Somervilles suspension adjusted would certainly peak my interest.

Keep us informed, I am definitely interested if he decides to sell. But the market seems pretty random on the rarer Fats and the good money seems to be in the Yo's.

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Old August 15th, 2008, 3:50 PM   #6
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Just curious, is the sleeved frame worth more or less? I recently saw one that a local frame builder had. He changed it to a 1 1/8 steerer tube.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 8:24 AM   #7
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Hey guys,

A buddy of mine asked me what the fair price of a ridden (of course) but not very abused (mostly ridden on road) Ti Yo Frame would be. It's a medium (if it were a large I'd have told him that there had been a recall and I'd take $100 to take it off his hands), but these are so rare, I don't really know what to tell him. Anybody have any advice?
tell him i want to buy it
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Old September 3rd, 2008, 11:51 AM   #8
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Hi Gang
This is just my opinion, of course, but I did weld most of the Somerville TI frames.

The machined tube frames are WAY nicer than the sleeved tube frames. They are lighter and have a better design on the head tube. We had trouble maintaining alignment on the first runs of sleeved tube frames and it took me a while to figure out a straightening procedure. By the time we changed over to the machined tube design, I had welded quite a few TI frames and finally thought I had reached the level of the guys at Merlin. I built several custom tools for purging and heat-sinking which took some time to perfect.

I would love to have a machined tube frame now. I have a sleeved tube frame that was returned to Fat City after it developed a crack in the downtube sleeve near the BB. The crack was not in a weld, but in the middle of the sleeve. It was an odd place for a crack to develop and I still am not sure why it occured. The frame hung around for over a year and when it became apparent that Somerville was going to close, I asked Chris what he intended to do with it. He said I could have it as part of my severance. I repaired the crack and put the frame on the alignment block and it was straight as an arrow!!

I still have it and it is one of my prized possessions. It was stolen out of my car and I somehow managed to get it back with nearly all of its parts still there.

Now if I could just find some time to ride the damn thing...

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Old September 16th, 2008, 2:31 PM   #9
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What a fascinating thread...really awesome to be reading of your experiences welding up those early FAT ti there Scott.

I have one of those early FAT ti's , no. 13 which must have lived up to it's frame numbering...as it too developed a crack close by the b.b. (I geuss if you play with the cutting edge sometimes you get cut eh?!)

Luckily though the kind folk at Indy Fab repaired it; and now it spends it later life getting very muddy back here in blighty.

Absolutely my favourite frameset...cheers fella for fabricating that!

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Old January 5th, 2009, 11:00 AM   #10
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The market has spoken.

This very sweet 93 external butted sleeved Ti Fat just sold on eBay for $1,625.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=150318423492

Anyone on this site get this frame?
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Old January 14th, 2009, 12:42 PM   #11
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Just joined this group. Sitting at work and feeling nostalgic about FCC.

I remember those first Ti Fats that came through the Finishing department. Those were a bear to align! Good memories Scott.

Glad you are well.
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Old January 14th, 2009, 1:34 PM   #12
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Just joined this group. Sitting at work and feeling nostalgic about FCC.

I remember those first Ti Fats that came through the Finishing department. Those were a bear to align! Good memories Scott.

Glad you are well.
Welcome F. Feason! Us riders and fans love to hear all the stories from the shop. Chime in anytime.

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Old January 14th, 2009, 2:53 PM   #13
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Thank you Fat-Tony for the warm welcome. I am sure I will be adding some tidbits here and there.

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Old January 17th, 2011, 8:01 PM   #14
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I just realized this is an old thread but I was searching for something and this thread came up.

Even though it is old-ish...I thought I'd thank I robot for welding up my arrow straight 93 M Ti Yo!

I actually just dropped it off at the shop today for a couple minor things I was too lazy to do. Of course those that were in the shop "in the know"...knew.

Anyway thanks!
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Old January 18th, 2011, 2:30 PM   #15
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I have a sleeved tube frame that was returned to Fat City after it developed a crack in the downtube sleeve near the BB. The crack was not in a weld, but in the middle of the sleeve.
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check the frame number on that frame? if its 005T2M then its my old frame. it cracked in the exact location you mention, in the middle of the sleeve.
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