Canti Set Up Wisdom????

settemarche · December 19th, 2007, 6:45 PM

anyone want to let on some tricks for optimum canti set up. i have some WTB Speedmasters on the Yo i just finished and they are super loud after some heavy braking. i would like get them dialed in.

thanks all,

Sette

MikeyNYC · December 20th, 2007, 1:17 AM

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Originally Posted by settemarche

anyone want to let on some tricks for optimum canti set up. i have some WTB Speedmasters on the Yo i just finished and they are super loud after some heavy braking. i would like get them dialed in.

thanks all,

Sette

Sette,

I had those same brakes on my Wicked and after 3 different bike shops and endless fiddling I never got them dialed in to where they didn't make noise, so I recently took them off the bike and am waiting to figure out what to use instead...Perhaps someone one here can impart some Jedi Master wisdom on how to properly adjust these cranky brakes???

Are you using WTB pads? Maybe we should both try Kool-Stops?

colker · December 20th, 2007, 7:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeyNYC

Sette,

I had those same brakes on my Wicked and after 3 different bike shops and endless fiddling I never got them dialed in to where they didn't make noise, so I recently took them off the bike and am waiting to figure out what to use instead...Perhaps someone one here can impart some Jedi Master wisdom on how to properly adjust these cranky brakes???

Are you using WTB pads? Maybe we should both try Kool-Stops?

not to diss the wtbs but.....XTR M900 CANTIS!

settemarche · December 20th, 2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeyNYC

Sette,

I had those same brakes on my Wicked and after 3 different bike shops and endless fiddling I never got them dialed in to where they didn't make noise, so I recently took them off the bike and am waiting to figure out what to use instead...Perhaps someone one here can impart some Jedi Master wisdom on how to properly adjust these cranky brakes???

Are you using WTB pads? Maybe we should both try Kool-Stops?

Mike,

that does not sound to good. not which ones were noisy on your bike, but the fronts are what it out of control on mine.

as for pads. right now there are Ritchey Whale fin blacks on there. i have used these pads before and not had a noise issue so i do think it is the actual set up itself.

Sette

settemarche · December 20th, 2007, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by colker

not to diss the wtbs but.....XTR M900 CANTIS!

Flav,

love that brake. i thought about doing those. but wanted something a little more exotic. well as of now i am pretty sure that i could set up M900's pretty well. WTB - not so much. i think i have a full set of Tri Aligns. but i was saving those for the Wicked!

Sette

fat-tony · December 20th, 2007, 5:58 PM

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Originally Posted by settemarche

Flav,

love that brake. i thought about doing those. but wanted something a little more exotic. well as of now i am pretty sure that i could set up M900's pretty well. WTB - not so much. i think i have a full set of Tri Aligns. but i was saving those for the Wicked!

Sette

Based off of Melvin's post regarding your bike in the Gallery, I would sell the Speemasters to him.

Yo Eddy! where are you here?

(great looking ride btw!)

settemarche · December 20th, 2007, 8:08 PM

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Originally Posted by fat-tony

Based off of Melvin's post regarding your bike in the Gallery, I would sell the Speemasters to him.

Yo Eddy! where are you here?

(great looking ride btw!)

maybe i he would want to trade??? XTR for WTB?

Sette

colker · December 21st, 2007, 3:31 PM

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Originally Posted by settemarche

maybe i he would want to trade??? XTR for WTB?

Sette

i've had great luck w DC 987s and grey ritchey/ kool stop compounds. add shimano slr levers and it's brake heaven.

Yo Eddy! · December 21st, 2007, 4:10 PM

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Originally Posted by settemarche

maybe i he would want to trade??? XTR for WTB?

Sette

Ooh... too bad I do not have XTRs for trade

colker · December 21st, 2007, 7:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Yo Eddy!

Ooh... too bad I do not have XTRs for trade

987s?

Yo Eddy! · December 22nd, 2007, 4:34 AM

I were at shop few weeks ago. He had them. 10 euros or so. I didn't take them. Stupid?

Yo Eddy! · December 22nd, 2007, 4:54 AM

I didn't take them because with the plastics they didn't gave me sufficient 'quality feel'. Moreover 'DiaCompe' hasn't the stature of Yo, Kooka and ....Grafton. My Yo will be getting a new brake sytem this christmas holiday. Finally I'll get rid of the V's. The new setup will be Grafton Johnny Jewels, Grafton FatFiner and I hope Grafton Re-Entry levers. So far it prooved to be difficult to get the levers on the powder coated TrueTemper bar and I do not wanna use much force, so maybe it will end up with 'only' XCPro levers... still nice of course.

I must say the Johnny Jewel brakes are VERY nicely made. They are a great piece of engineering, I would say even more interesting than the SpeedControllers. The levers are a joy for the senses too.

Now hoping they are up to the performance of 987s of course

colker · December 22nd, 2007, 7:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Yo Eddy!

I were at shop few weeks ago. He had them. 10 euros or so. I didn't take them. Stupid?

987s look beautifull plus i have had them on 2 bikes over 12 yrs and it still works perfect.
i prefer dia compe, suntour , shimano and sugino stuff over chi chi.

Yo Eddy! · December 22nd, 2007, 9:12 AM

Actually I find them pretty ugly

You're right on that the stuff of the Japanese mass producers is often far superior to everything else. Great function, not many flaws, steady quality, compatability (not always, but often), wide availability of spares... etc

settemarche · December 22nd, 2007, 5:51 PM

the Fat Finger really says it all!

think i am going to go and ride my Voodoo.

later,

Sette

colker · December 22nd, 2007, 5:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yo Eddy!

I didn't take them because with the plastics they didn't gave me sufficient 'quality feel'. Moreover 'DiaCompe' hasn't the stature of Yo, Kooka and ....Grafton. My Yo will be getting a new brake sytem this christmas holiday. Finally I'll get rid of the V's. The new setup will be Grafton Johnny Jewels, Grafton FatFiner and I hope Grafton Re-Entry levers. So far it prooved to be difficult to get the levers on the powder coated TrueTemper bar and I do not wanna use much force, so maybe it will end up with 'only' XCPro levers... still nice of course.

I must say the Johnny Jewel brakes are VERY nicely made. They are a great piece of engineering, I would say even more interesting than the SpeedControllers. The levers are a joy for the senses too.

Now hoping they are up to the performance of 987s of course

what plastic? mine is full metal..

Yo Eddy! · December 23rd, 2007, 4:19 AM

Colker,

The plastic that covers the springs. Moreover I do not like its lines, but that is a matter of taste of course.

Sette,

Sorry I can't give a decent contribution to the solution of the noise problem. I really haven't an idea how to solve it ...except for greasing the rims maybe

Never tried the WTBs, but they look pretty nice. If I ever get my hands on a pair, I hope that the looks and the overall performance make up for the noise for me.

settemarche · December 23rd, 2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Yo Eddy!

Colker,

The plastic that covers the springs. Moreover I do not like its lines, but that is a matter of taste of course.

Sette,

Sorry I can't give a decent contribution to the solution of the noise problem. I really haven't an idea how to solve it ...except for greasing the rims maybe

Never tried the WTBs, but they look pretty nice. If I ever get my hands on a pair, I hope that the looks and the overall performance make up for the noise for me.

unfortunately i recently sold a full set of black 987's. guess i should have kept them? as for the noise issue. NYC Mike and i might not be the best mechanics - but this afternoon after the Christmas Shopathon i am going to get serious. pulling out a marker, wedge - going full engineering style. we shall see if the noise abatment project works out.

fingers crossed!

settemarche · December 27th, 2007, 10:58 PM

Cracked, cracked, and more cracked!

Bssc · January 7th, 2008, 5:58 PM

They are suppose to make noise you are only to use them to stop not modulate speed.

settemarche · January 9th, 2008, 11:19 PM

B,

a little noise is one thing. but the words can really not describe how loud the brakes are. loud to the point of people coming out of their houses to find out what is happening.

it is moot point. 3 of the four were actually cracked. quite stunning that i was not injured on some ride. out with the WTB and in with Tri Align

S

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Originally Posted by Bssc

They are suppose to make noise you are only to use them to stop not modulate speed.

Yo Eddy! · January 10th, 2008, 5:03 AM

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Originally Posted by settemarche

B,

a little noise is one thing. but the words can really not describe how loud the brakes are. loud to the point of people coming out of their houses to find out what is happening.

That is funny

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it is moot point. 3 of the four were actually cracked

That is terrible

Bssc · January 10th, 2008, 1:13 PM

I use to set my brakes up as loud as possible the noise said get the f out of my way I am faster.

try newer brakes for cyclecross not low profile but better now. TWP is making an awesome brake as is Forza.

Big tip make sure there is no to much play in the length of the post to the length of the bushing. Try to match the two so there is as little play as possible but still free running.

Bssc · January 11th, 2008, 5:37 PM

BTW if you guys need help and are in the Boston area drop on by my shop(IBC newton) I'll be glad to help you out.

December 19th, 2007, 6:45 PM	#1
settemarche Senior Member Join Date: June 8th, 2006 Location: The O.C. Posts: 370	Canti Set Up Wisdom???? anyone want to let on some tricks for optimum canti set up. i have some WTB Speedmasters on the Yo i just finished and they are super loud after some heavy braking. i would like get them dialed in. thanks all, Sette

December 22nd, 2007, 4:34 AM	#11
Yo Eddy! Senior Member Join Date: July 16th, 2004 Location: Netherlands Posts: 638	I were at shop few weeks ago. He had them. 10 euros or so. I didn't take them. Stupid? __________________ Melvin Yo rider, Wicked attitude

December 22nd, 2007, 4:54 AM	#12
Yo Eddy! Senior Member Join Date: July 16th, 2004 Location: Netherlands Posts: 638	I didn't take them because with the plastics they didn't gave me sufficient 'quality feel'. Moreover 'DiaCompe' hasn't the stature of Yo, Kooka and ....Grafton. My Yo will be getting a new brake sytem this christmas holiday. Finally I'll get rid of the V's. The new setup will be Grafton Johnny Jewels, Grafton FatFiner and I hope Grafton Re-Entry levers. So far it prooved to be difficult to get the levers on the powder coated TrueTemper bar and I do not wanna use much force, so maybe it will end up with 'only' XCPro levers... still nice of course. I must say the Johnny Jewel brakes are VERY nicely made. They are a great piece of engineering, I would say even more interesting than the SpeedControllers. The levers are a joy for the senses too. Now hoping they are up to the performance of 987s of course __________________ Melvin Yo rider, Wicked attitude

December 22nd, 2007, 9:12 AM	#14
Yo Eddy! Senior Member Join Date: July 16th, 2004 Location: Netherlands Posts: 638	Actually I find them pretty ugly You're right on that the stuff of the Japanese mass producers is often far superior to everything else. Great function, not many flaws, steady quality, compatability (not always, but often), wide availability of spares... etc __________________ Melvin Yo rider, Wicked attitude

December 23rd, 2007, 4:19 AM	#17
Yo Eddy! Senior Member Join Date: July 16th, 2004 Location: Netherlands Posts: 638	Colker, The plastic that covers the springs. Moreover I do not like its lines, but that is a matter of taste of course. Sette, Sorry I can't give a decent contribution to the solution of the noise problem. I really haven't an idea how to solve it ...except for greasing the rims maybe Never tried the WTBs, but they look pretty nice. If I ever get my hands on a pair, I hope that the looks and the overall performance make up for the noise for me. __________________ Melvin Yo rider, Wicked attitude

December 22nd, 2007, 5:51 PM	#15
settemarche Senior Member Join Date: June 8th, 2006 Location: The O.C. Posts: 370	the Fat Finger really says it all! think i am going to go and ride my Voodoo. later, Sette

December 27th, 2007, 10:58 PM	#19
settemarche Senior Member Join Date: June 8th, 2006 Location: The O.C. Posts: 370	Cracked, cracked, and more cracked!

January 7th, 2008, 5:58 PM	#20
Bssc Member Join Date: December 15th, 2005 Location: sin city Posts: 97	They are suppose to make noise you are only to use them to stop not modulate speed.

January 10th, 2008, 1:13 PM	#23
Bssc Member Join Date: December 15th, 2005 Location: sin city Posts: 97	I use to set my brakes up as loud as possible the noise said get the f out of my way I am faster. try newer brakes for cyclecross not low profile but better now. TWP is making an awesome brake as is Forza. Big tip make sure there is no to much play in the length of the post to the length of the bushing. Try to match the two so there is as little play as possible but still free running.

January 11th, 2008, 5:37 PM	#24
Bssc Member Join Date: December 15th, 2005 Location: sin city Posts: 97	BTW if you guys need help and are in the Boston area drop on by my shop(IBC newton) I'll be glad to help you out.

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